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Dark n Stormy Knight

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85. Just because people aren't watching the trial doesn't mean they

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 03:19 PM

Feb 2021

aren't Interested. I'm very interested, but am not watching. I do follow up by reading & watching reports on the trial, including excerpts.

Many others will do the same. RWers won't get accurate info from their sources--the actual fake news-- but they were never going to hear the truth anyway. Like the RWers at the trial who refuse to look or listen.

However, many who aren't watching the trial will get the facts that emerge from the trial. And the official historical record is important.

I truly get your concern about COVID relief. It is super important, of course, but unless it's long delayed or derailed entirely, people will get the help Dems are determined to provide.

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THEY'RE CALLING WITNESSES, including McCarthy or his notes! (Edit, Buetler's notes about McCarthy) [View all] George II Feb 2021 OP

Yee-haw! Kid Berwyn Feb 2021 #1

There's no option. mobeau69 Feb 2021 #2

Apparently in reference to Congresswoman Beutler (that is who Raskin mentioned along with her notes) BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #3

This is a clever way to delay the Covid Bill until after people fall off of unemployment. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #24

Not necessarily BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #26

I hope so...but since I still view conviction as unlikely, the longer this goes on I think it is Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #30

If one stipulates that a conviction won't happen BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #33

Well said! pandr32 Feb 2021 #38

For the last Impeachment trial a year ago this month, Turtle "controlled the Rules" BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #42

Looks like the MaCarthy issue is decided pandr32 Feb 2021 #67

Or so we thought BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #68

I just saw it dissolve like wet tissue. pandr32 Feb 2021 #84

I think he was basically dismissed BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #87

I can't agree conviction is irrelevant because the bigger issue is barring from office. CaptainTruth Feb 2021 #65

The argument that Democrats had originally considered BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #66

I still say if the Covid bill is delayed further, we will pay price in 22...most Americans are not Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #71

So you're saying the Republicans fooled the House Managers BarackTheVote Feb 2021 #35

If we are tied up with witnesses and since we called witnesses, the GOP will too...it delays the Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #70

Well, you got your way BarackTheVote Feb 2021 #76

Trump might be happy or faking it...but the GOP didn't get to waste our time so they are not happy. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #79

The more evidence, the more conviction in the minds of people and in historical analysis. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2021 #41

Exactly. Well put! KPN Feb 2021 #58

You assume people are watching this trial...Look at the ratings...they are not watching for the most Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #72

Just because people aren't watching the trial doesn't mean they Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2021 #85

Maybe not - in the Senate. BUT, I'm thinking we have to look at the effect this will have PatrickforO Feb 2021 #62

Most won't watch it nor will they care...now if they don't get their money...that will be what they Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #69

Well, I cannot criticize you or accuse you of cynicism. Because you are right. PatrickforO Feb 2021 #78

I would never want to be responsible for you or anyone losing their sense of optimism... Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #80

Yeah I'll say. You and me both. PatrickforO Feb 2021 #83

For real? triron Feb 2021 #4

knr triron Feb 2021 #5

The vote to call witnesses will fail. Liberal In Texas Feb 2021 #6

ketchup. enough repups already are in favor. uncle ray Feb 2021 #8

I stand corrected. I didn't realize it was a simple majority. Liberal In Texas Feb 2021 #10

it's all good, things are happening fast. uncle ray Feb 2021 #17

Reading down the list, Collins, Romney and Murkowsky voted for witnesses. That makes 53.... George II Feb 2021 #9

Lindsey just changed his mind, voted yes!:) True Blue American Feb 2021 #28

Lindsay changes his mind more often than I change my underwear. llmart Feb 2021 #60

It just passed 55-45 StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #14

Collins, murkowsli and Romney say YES KewlKat Feb 2021 #7

Witnesses approved - heard 54 yays - now added Graham as 55. BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #11

I got Collins, Murkowski, Romney, and Graham - who was the 5th Republican? StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #15

Sasse I think? BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #16

Now ask yourself why are they voting for witnesses? Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #73

The only oddball GOP one - after the fact - was Graham BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #75

I think his first name is spelled with an ' instead of the final "g" RVN VET71 Feb 2021 #77

I call him BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #81

Thanks for the info. I just sent him a contribution RVN VET71 Feb 2021 #86

For that seat BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #88

Now Graham has changed to aye. George II Feb 2021 #12

witnesses at a trial? KayF Feb 2021 #13

They requested Herrerra Butler and her notes, not McCarthy. StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #18

Oh, I thought I heard Raskin say McCarthy's notes, too. It happened so fast. George II Feb 2021 #21

I replayed it to be sure. He was referring to Herrera-Butler StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #23

That hostility might work in the managers' favour, at least in a PR way. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #51

"Hostile witness" does mean they show hostility in the traditional sense StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #52

Thanks. I just saw it on C-Span too while they were getting ready to call to order again. George II Feb 2021 #54

I just heard an NPR interview with wnylib Feb 2021 #45

Yes. And the defense doesn't want McCarthy cross examined. ancianita Feb 2021 #27

That was amazing UpInArms Feb 2021 #19

He said in a tweet this morning (or late last night) that if they allow witnesses he'll tie it up... George II Feb 2021 #20

Should have known UpInArms Feb 2021 #39

Schiff says the managers can and will wnylib Feb 2021 #55

Here's why Graham changed his vote. He did so only AFTER it was already 54-46... George II Feb 2021 #22

Yes - they're going to try to turn it into a circus StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #25

Can the D's successfully do that, limit or control who's called? Ligyron Feb 2021 #43

I think so StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #48

Thank you for your reply, which does make sense. Ligyron Feb 2021 #56

I also heard the expert say, " It is a bluff!" True Blue American Feb 2021 #29

McQARTHY is a great and unexpected bonus bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #31

I don't think they're calling him, I misheard, they meant Beutler's notes about McCarthy. George II Feb 2021 #34

Even better bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #36

... 😅 Duppers Feb 2021 #32

For the record, Congresswoman Beutler is a REPUBLICAN! George II Feb 2021 #37

sounds like Herrara Beutler's testimony may be hearsay Bmoboy Feb 2021 #40

Do you have insider information or something? Politicub Feb 2021 #47

No, I just read her multiple statements Bmoboy Feb 2021 #53

It doesn't matter here StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #50

True, and ... Bmoboy Feb 2021 #57

Good!!! SheltieLover Feb 2021 #44

They are taking their duty seriously and solemnly. Politicub Feb 2021 #46

Great! Throw it in these fucker's faces. Use our power as the majority to determine who should be jalan48 Feb 2021 #49

It looks to me like Democrats have changed their minds gab13by13 Feb 2021 #59

CNN just said that maybe they'll use CNN reporting in lieu of witness Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #61

They changed their mind on witnesses. gab13by13 Feb 2021 #63

My gut feeling is BeerBarrelPolka Feb 2021 #64

There was never going to be a conviction. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #74

Exactly. ismnotwasm Feb 2021 #82