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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 10:44 PM Jan 2012

Ron Paul: The Only Presidential Candidate Telling Important Truths [View all]

Which is why he's so fucking dangerous.

Let me be clear: Ron Paul is a nut. If he had things his way, our country would be... well, a basket case like Somalia. Any reasonable reading of history shows that his policies inevitably lead to catastrophe.

Paul is a crazy, but he's a crazy who's getting traction, and that's a big problem.

So why is he attracting positive interest from otherwise-sane people?

First off, both mainstream parties have utterly failed Americans. As Elizabeth Warren says, "America's middle class has been hammered, squeezed and chipped at" for 31 years. Both elected Republicans and elected Democrats have gleefully participated in this withering attack, participating with gusto in the revolving door between Wall Street and Washington. Republicans led the assault, while Democrts chanted a chorus of "we suck less who the fuck else ya gonna vote for, chumps?" as they too waged war on the working Americans.

Second, Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate who has consistently called out important truths that Americans know are right. Our Government serves only Wall Street, our wars are insane wastes of blood and money, and our civil liberties are being destroyed.

Americans today are in a bad situation. They know that the Republicans will not help them. They see no evidence that Democrats will help either. But here's a guy who's at least is telling the truth about some things... "maybe he's telling the truth about the other stuff too" they begin to think... "maybe we should end social safety nets and decimate government" and all the other wrong-headed stuff that Paul spews.

And suddenly a dangerous nut is their only hope.

We live in dangerous times.


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Ron Paul has followers, not supporters. boston bean Jan 2012 #1
That's how Reagan started MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #2
Pretty much RZM Jan 2012 #20
Yep. We live in dangerous times... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #3
Black is White. War is Peace. joshcryer Jan 2012 #4
What was his previous policy? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #51
Yes, but lets not forget who was in charge for 20 out of 30 years. And lets not forget that Paul's FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #5
Ron Paul is the product of a political system that leaves only extremists as alternatives. Selatius Jan 2012 #6
Well put. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #17
I know that many people here dismiss concerns about LuvNewcastle Jan 2012 #7
The parties.. sendero Jan 2012 #39
That's true about the Democratic Party. LuvNewcastle Jan 2012 #44
I'm pretty firmly in the "Fuck Ron Paul" camp Telly Savalas Jan 2012 #8
Here ProSense Jan 2012 #9
I don't think anyone here is arguing that Ron Paul is a good choice for America MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #11
Breaking ProSense Jan 2012 #12
On an economic level, his policies would be far worse arcane1 Jan 2012 #10
Is it your intention to say that Ron Paul is more truthful than President Obama? grantcart Jan 2012 #13
No. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #15
War is Peace isn't washing anymore... think Jan 2012 #16
Nor is "change you can believe in." AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #62
That is obviously not what he was saying slay Jan 2012 #18
Thank you. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #19
"Ron Paul: The Only Presidential Candidate Telling Important Truths" grantcart Jan 2012 #21
Of course it's obvious, woo me with science Jan 2012 #22
Bullshit MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #23
+1 slay Jan 2012 #25
Nice thought, if only they'd question Ron Paul's positions instead of saying they hold truths. joshcryer Jan 2012 #26
+ 2 AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #61
The scary thing is... Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #14
Ron Paul represents one serious, important constituency. Our troops. mojowork_n Jan 2012 #24
Yet... loyalsister Jan 2012 #34
I know three military wives who voted for Obama in 2008, Autumn Jan 2012 #27
They'd be even sicker frazzled Jan 2012 #28
Not that war, or THOSE wars. mojowork_n Jan 2012 #30
Wrong, Military Commissions Act of 2006 defined unlawful combatants, thus making terrorists... joshcryer Jan 2012 #32
Don't buy your doubts, however high you claim they go. mojowork_n Jan 2012 #52
Absolutely right. But truth and logic are sometimes overrated. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #60
Presenting your opinions as fact again? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #54
You wish to help spread this myth that the military support Paul Robb Jan 2012 #48
What myth? His biggest financial supporters are from the military. mojowork_n Jan 2012 #53
Do you think he has more military supporters Robb Jan 2012 #56
RE: Sampling Size mojowork_n Jan 2012 #64
Let's try this again. Robb Jan 2012 #66
What conclusion do you draw? With what evidence to the contrary? mojowork_n Jan 2012 #68
It doesn't matter what we think. Autumn Jan 2012 #50
Obama can pre-empt a Paul Presidency right now SixthSense Jan 2012 #29
Thinking about it, that would likely earn him more votes than it cost him. n/t Scuba Jan 2012 #35
He knows that Paul isn't going to win even if he gets the R nomination. No change is necessary, not AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #58
That wouldn't make a difference... brooklynite Jan 2012 #71
Speaking the truth is easy bhikkhu Jan 2012 #31
yeh, that Paulo, always full of truthiness. Whisp Jan 2012 #33
Paul has clearly out-flanked the left on war/military, drugs and other civil liberty issues.... Scuba Jan 2012 #36
With the ouster of the Blue Dogs Democrats have arguably been moving to the left. joshcryer Jan 2012 #38
I respectfully disagree... Scuba Jan 2012 #40
Well, proportionately, progressive Democrats are a majority, now. joshcryer Jan 2012 #41
Sorry, can you explain "proportionately, progressive Democrats are a majority"? Serious question... Scuba Jan 2012 #42
Yes, well, OK, that's not totally true. New Dems + Blue Dogs are a majority. joshcryer Jan 2012 #43
Americans may not be "super progressive", but they're a lot more progressive .... Scuba Jan 2012 #45
How many voted for indefinite detention? Do they need to call themselves Blue-Dog D's to be one? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #57
It's not profitable for Blue-Dog Democrats to move to the left. They'll never do so. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #55
"Paul is a crazy,.." - Why, you are on the same page with Limbaugh and the GOPers. Thaddeus Kosciuszko Jan 2012 #37
Becuase a dog loves you no matter what you look like or how how fat your bank account might be. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #47
Oh look, another thread "not supporting" Ron Paul...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #46
+1 AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #59
Even Paul's RACISM has led ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #49
Fuck Ron Paul... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2012 #63
Agree. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #70
Club for Growth: Ron Paul’s Economic Plan “Spectacular” ProSense Jan 2012 #65
Nut or Not, bvar22 Jan 2012 #67
yeah, he speaks some important truths. However, his solutions to the problems notadmblnd Jan 2012 #69
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