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Azathoth

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81. No, it's not a lie. It's objective fact.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 07:28 PM
Feb 2021

He didn't defend himself. He just sat there and took the blows until Gillibrand and the rest decided he was a liability.

Had he come out and told his side of the story and forcefully pushed back against the accusations, it would have been harder to steamroll him.

Know what would happen if 38 Republicans turned on Cruz and demanded he resign? He'd laugh at them and call them RINOs, and his popularity would likely surge.

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No, he didn't brooklynite Feb 2021 #1
Not to absolve Franken Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #3
Strongly disagree with you here. chomper Feb 2021 #4
Touching someone inappropriately while they are asleep IS sexual assault sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #8
Did he touch someone while she was sleeping? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2021 #11
I saw a picture of him making grabby hands at a sleeping woman sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #14
He did not resign because of the picture with Leann Tweeden NewJeffCT Feb 2021 #25
She wasn't asleep and he didn't touch her. George II Feb 2021 #90
Definitely not a foot away Polybius Feb 2021 #52
I still bet she's got a signed copy of that photo at home on the wall. Vinca Feb 2021 #62
So does her buddy Sean Hannity. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2021 #83
Wow, I've never seen that photo. Silver1 Feb 2021 #86
She wasn't asleep edhopper Feb 2021 #12
Pretty much Johonny Feb 2021 #21
I'll agree about don't resign sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #31
He didn't touch her. JeaneRaye Feb 2021 #30
He didn't touch her. JeaneRaye Feb 2021 #32
He didn't touch her Bettie Feb 2021 #33
I don't believe he touched her. He foolishly pretended to do so. 11 Bravo Feb 2021 #60
Not that clear edhopper Feb 2021 #6
Just to be fair Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #10
I'll go with the New Yorker n/t kcr Feb 2021 #44
No, he didn't. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #7
But and Ethics Committee investigation is really just a hearing Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #9
Okayyyy... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #15
Maybe so Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #16
To avoid the infighting... not because he was guilty of the manufactured accusations. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #17
And win an election in Alabama Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #19
... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #22
OK I guess we are doing zoo animals now Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #29
LOL! NurseJackie Feb 2021 #40
:-) Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #67
Gotcha! NurseJackie Feb 2021 #68
The election was in December edhopper Feb 2021 #37
Ok Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #39
Mistakes happen. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #84
They do indeed Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #85
Much less even bothering to correct them. The bastards! NurseJackie Feb 2021 #87
Exactly Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #88
Or anyone else who refuses to correct their mistakes and false statements. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #89
Of course not Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #91
They make as much sense as this... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #92
I totally agree with you NJ LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #42
Actually, I've IMPLIED nothing. However, on those occasions when I am "IMPLYING" something... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #47
I think we met once in the Music Appreciation group and agreed. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #50
That's my favorite non-political forum here. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #66
Yes, it was a total of 8, including some Democratic officials, and there were no calls for him Celerity Feb 2021 #48
All but four of the accusers were anonymous standingtall Feb 2021 #51
That is a qualitative question that should be addressed to the entirety (minus the 5 I listed) of Celerity Feb 2021 #53
Fair enough standingtall Feb 2021 #58
+1 Celerity Feb 2021 #59
Investigated fully? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #69
Yep. GOP circle with wagons to protect their own. DEM's circle with guns and start shooting. Pobeka Feb 2021 #2
He didn't have to... demmiblue Feb 2021 #5
Franken didn't have to resign. That is the difference with our side and theirs and we need to stop. cbdo2007 Feb 2021 #13
Sexual assault is just a mistake... sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #20
Which women? NurseJackie Feb 2021 #23
The ones that accused him? There were several, and one had photo evidence sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #24
Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #27
I don't recall any of the accusations... tonedevil Feb 2021 #28
I don't think he was innocent, I just don't think he should have resigned over it. cbdo2007 Feb 2021 #49
It was posed. Many can't see it because they prefer to believe he is an abuser same as Trump. He is katmondoo Feb 2021 #18
Who said he's the same as Trump? sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #26
Lets Not Forget DAngelo136 Feb 2021 #34
And when David Vitter was caught in a diaper Bettie Feb 2021 #36
What about Harris, Warren, Sanders and Booker? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #41
As the person who ran the 2nd largest Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #55
No disagreement Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #56
When you consider "...he also incited insurrection." BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #35
When I clicked on the OP BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #38
If he resigns Traildogbob Feb 2021 #43
Being criminally prosecuted edhopper Feb 2021 #71
It was sarcasm!!!!🙄 Traildogbob Feb 2021 #77
Sorry edhopper Feb 2021 #78
No worries Traildogbob Feb 2021 #79
Franken resigned because he refused to defend himself Azathoth Feb 2021 #45
That's a lie. 38 of his colleagues ganged up on him, without the decency of allowing the Ethics OnDoutside Feb 2021 #72
No, it's not a lie. It's objective fact. Azathoth Feb 2021 #81
Just cos you say so doesn't make it true. When 38 of your supposed OnDoutside Feb 2021 #82
There will be no Republicans leading a charge against Cruz to make him resign. Autumn Feb 2021 #46
That's not how they work Bettie Feb 2021 #54
They will do more than defend him. Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #57
Post removed Post removed Feb 2021 #61
STG I sometimes think people reference Franken just to get a lot of kicks'n'recs. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #63
Yes edhopper Feb 2021 #64
People talking about how terrible it was to leave Texas got Cruz to come back. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #65
It's not us that will give him the pass edhopper Feb 2021 #70
Then why talk about him? WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #73
Sure edhopper Feb 2021 #74
We know they're hypocrites, and we know they don't care that they're hypocrites. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #75
You think edhopper Feb 2021 #76
Nope. So if people want him to resign, they need to organize without Republicans. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #80
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