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Hortensis

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22. No, I'm talking ONLY about the hostile, illiberal, anti-democratic
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:54 AM
Feb 2021

left. Most are claiming to be socialists or just anti-capitalism in this era. Since almost no one is interested in whatever "revolution" they're espousing, though, democracy doesn't work for them. As LW extremists have done in many other nations, they instead look for other ways to overset majority rule.

THOSE are the ones I'm talking about. They're very real. Their culpability for the dreadful catastrophe of 2016 was very real in a number of ways, including massive disinformation campaigns, embracing Russia's assistance, trying to create a "Dexit" movement, and for some even voting directly for Trump.

The potential danger that they could unite with the hostile right, as has happened in many nations to overset representative governments there, is also very real. Those who did in 2016 were a small but significant part of the RW victories.

No matter how they try to hide from scrutiny among the Democratic mainstream, as in 2016, activities far more focused on defeating Democrats than Republicans identify them.

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No I think she is done Jamesyu Feb 2021 #1
Install her as acting OMB director SoonerPride Feb 2021 #47
Can't be done. onenote Feb 2021 #57
Ugh romana Feb 2021 #2
So does Biden or Schumer Boydog Feb 2021 #3
Already done. This is actually a useful way for Manchin to "prove" Hortensis Feb 2021 #8
Well said. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #12
Yes, I'm picturing her as a token confirmation reject PatSeg Feb 2021 #23
but Manchin voted for Bill Barr bigtree Feb 2021 #16
Those're for his conservative constituents, not for you. Hortensis Feb 2021 #18
'the hostile left' bigtree Feb 2021 #20
No, I'm talking ONLY about the hostile, illiberal, anti-democratic Hortensis Feb 2021 #22
lol bigtree Feb 2021 #24
You really should read about extremists and extremism. Hortensis Feb 2021 #27
that's a long way of excusing harmful politics bigtree Feb 2021 #29
This seems to be denial that extremism exists. Even as deaths Hortensis Feb 2021 #32
that has nothing to do with his vote bigtree Feb 2021 #35
Gotta agree with you. Manchin with his weak excuse for voting no looks weak. I bet anything this seaglass Feb 2021 #45
That's an interesting idea. OnDoutside Feb 2021 #52
Why was Harris going to West Virginia a problem Boydog Feb 2021 #56
Sorry - she didn't go to WV, she appeared on a local WV TV station to talk about Covid relief seaglass Feb 2021 #60
Has anyone in modern times ever changed their mind after announcing they are voting no? Polybius Feb 2021 #33
McCain... kinda WarGamer Feb 2021 #38
Yes, on the Health Care repeal Polybius Feb 2021 #40
If Joe doesn't like "the talk" WarGamer Feb 2021 #37
That is correct Polybius Feb 2021 #41
But why is he picking on Neera Tanden Boydog Feb 2021 #49
She is a woman SoonerPride Feb 2021 #51
Joes been singing the Unity tune and I guess he finds her past comments WarGamer Feb 2021 #61
Not without mr. backstabbing manchin Fullduplexxx Feb 2021 #4
One way and one way only, as far as I can tell DFW Feb 2021 #5
Or Romney Boydog Feb 2021 #6
I agree. Lisa could possibly do so, if she's leaning toward seeking reelection as an Independent Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #28
It depends on how she sees the R trademark developing DFW Feb 2021 #31
It would solidify her losing the Republican Primary again though Polybius Feb 2021 #34
She was a write in candidate that time because she ran in the Republican primary and lost Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #36
Yes, that was one historical race too Polybius Feb 2021 #39
I would of course defer to Alaska Democrats, but given the likely alternative... Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #42
In 2022 it is an all party open primary with top 4 candidates running in a ranked choice GE. seaglass Feb 2021 #43
That does scramble the picture, I wasn't aware of that. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #44
Do we know the Republicans are solid against her? AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2021 #7
No. Time to move on, Joe can put her elsewhere. Autumn Feb 2021 #9
Where for instance Boydog Feb 2021 #10
I'm sure he can think of someplace. No point in wasting any more time on it. nt Autumn Feb 2021 #11
Little bit ironic she is blocked by a "real Democrat" and supported by the "not real Democrat" Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2021 #14
A bit strange isn't it. Autumn Feb 2021 #17
But that's what gave Manchin an out. Imagine if it were R B Garr Feb 2021 #30
Offer her another job (non-confirmation job). lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #13
WH still backs her bigtree Feb 2021 #15
Get Toomey and/or Burr to come out for her. Grins Feb 2021 #19
I assume that people like Schumer and Durbin, both who have counted votes for years, will tell Biden karynnj Feb 2021 #21
No, sadly because I really like her. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #25
No BradAllison Feb 2021 #26
Just install her as acting OMB director and say fuck it. SoonerPride Feb 2021 #46
Ignoring the Vacancies Act didn't work out so well for Trump. onenote Feb 2021 #58
There are others out there as well qualified as Neera. Time to move on and start working on Biden's jalan48 Feb 2021 #48
Why? SoonerPride Feb 2021 #50
Not sure Biden is willing to go this path jalan48 Feb 2021 #53
Yep, Joe plays by the book, and without 100% Democratic support Dagstead Bumwood Feb 2021 #55
Actually the courts would have something to say about it and it wouldn't be pretty. onenote Feb 2021 #59
If she says something racist and steals some money the GOP vote for her. BlueNProud Feb 2021 #54
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