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Fiendish Thingy

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35. You haven't been paying attention- $15 min wage is hugely popular- Manchin's veto will doom him
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 08:20 PM
Feb 2021

Numerous organizations are pressuring Manchin to support the relief bill as is, and if he doesn’t, and if he continues to sabotage Biden’s agenda, they will pummel him with negative ads over the next four years.

Manchin won re-election in 2018 by 3%/19,000 votes. It’s not hard to imagine his approval rating plummeting over the next four years if he becomes the media’s villain due to sabotaging Biden’s agenda, and increasing the suffering of people in WV. Negative ads could easily convince 19,000 of the poorest Dem voters to not vote for Manchin.

If a populist candidate runs against him in the primary, he could have a tough time, and even if he wins the nomination, if the GOP runs a candidate who excites their base, all bets are off.

Manchin’s best bet is to deliver for his constituents with tangible, pocketbook results, including $15 min wage and Green Jobs Bill, otherwise his future in the senate is far from certain, especially if the DNC refuses to support his campaign.

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How would a primary threaten Manchin though? EarlG Feb 2021 #1
Agree. And DC should be given statehood. Nt spooky3 Feb 2021 #4
filibuster, so no go Celerity Feb 2021 #46
Dems can end it. See last paragraph. spooky3 Feb 2021 #53
Manchin, Sinema, Feinstein (and maybe more) will not vote to end the filibuster. nt Celerity Feb 2021 #55
Manchin and Sinema in low-population, overall conservative states Hortensis Feb 2021 #56
Because she is an institutionalist relic. She opposes SCOTUS expansion as well. Celerity Feb 2021 #62
Well, but the filibuster is specifically NOT an institution but a corruption Hortensis Feb 2021 #64
De Leon was hardly some wild-eyed leftie, he was President pro temp of the CA Senate Celerity Feb 2021 #69
I didn't say he was. I know who he was. We still get the LA Times Hortensis Feb 2021 #71
Let's see what happens. Deals are known to be made in Washington. Nt spooky3 Feb 2021 #60
A conservative Dem like Gov Jim Justice could win. radius777 Feb 2021 #51
Do you understand the politics in WV? Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #2
if Biden's agenda and his cabinet picks fail because of Manchin... Yavin4 Feb 2021 #5
Do you not understand the political differences among different states ? JI7 Feb 2021 #10
Let's not assume that whole agenda will fail. Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #13
If he isn't worried about a primary Midnightwalk Feb 2021 #28
Manchin is to the right of his state on economics. /nt radius777 Feb 2021 #52
Look for a PM. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2021 #3
give WV an $11 min wage to make manchin happy and $15 to everyone else nt msongs Feb 2021 #6
Excellent suggestion! Sur Zobra Feb 2021 #59
Primary Manchin; Get a Republican in His Place. MineralMan Feb 2021 #7
Currently and effectively, Manchin is a Republican. Yavin4 Feb 2021 #8
No he isn't. Without Manchin McConnell would control the Senate ? JI7 Feb 2021 #12
+++ still_one Feb 2021 #25
You are incorrect in that assessment of Manchin. MineralMan Feb 2021 #14
Except for the fact that he's not. unblock Feb 2021 #16
You don't understand the republican that would replace Manchin BGBD Feb 2021 #21
No,he is not mcar Feb 2021 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Feb 2021 #66
Democrats in west Virginia are mostly right wing. JI7 Feb 2021 #9
Your "on edit" statement is simply not true. 11 Bravo Feb 2021 #11
Manchin votes with Dems just about 60% of the time, getting judges confirmed requires his vote Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #20
Or, spend that effort and money on electing democratic senators in PA, WI and NC Orangepeel Feb 2021 #15
This Was Caused by Democratic Senatorial Failures in North Carolina, Maine, Iowa etc Stallion Feb 2021 #17
Brilliantly and concisely said. N/T Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #19
Exactly. Plus Manchin just issued a statement supporting Haaland's nomination for Interior. n/t FSogol Feb 2021 #24
With Manchin's obstruction, we only control confirmations of judges, and only if he votes Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #18
There are only two factors that will determine Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #23
We have a once in a century opportunity to make substantive change Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #38
End his Senate career??? BGBD Feb 2021 #26
You haven't been paying attention- $15 min wage is hugely popular- Manchin's veto will doom him Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Feb 2021 #68
No inside info- very public- Move On, Poor People's Campaign and others. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #70
Charlie Pierce said Manchin needs a slapdown. nt Grasswire2 Feb 2021 #22
Paul Wellstone said that he is for the Democratic wing of the Democratic party. padah513 Feb 2021 #27
We need to get through more Dems in other states, then badhair77 Feb 2021 #29
Bad idea. He still votes with the President more than any Republican does. marble falls Feb 2021 #30
Maybe Jilly_in_VA Feb 2021 #31
LOL! Enjoy handing the Pubs another senate seat Amishman Feb 2021 #32
Manchin is the most powerful man in the country for the next 2 years Azathoth Feb 2021 #33
Nobody gets everything they want. Having alternate nominees is expected. aikoaiko Feb 2021 #34
Manchin is up for election in 2024 Klaralven Feb 2021 #36
We need to pick up more seats. gldstwmn Feb 2021 #37
Manchin needs to be asked how his daughter is doing with the EpiPen she gouged sick people with Hekate Feb 2021 #40
That said, I am not, repeat not, in favor of chucking him out Hekate Feb 2021 #49
That seat is lost when Manchin goes. We would need to pick up a seat elsewhere... JCMach1 Feb 2021 #41
Do you have $10 million to primary him? former9thward Feb 2021 #42
That will be foolish. clutterbox1830 Feb 2021 #43
Apparently he does what the people who voted for him Raine Feb 2021 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Feb 2021 #45
Unfortunately, the OP won't disclose his own state, MineralMan Feb 2021 #63
Do the words sir pball Feb 2021 #47
Wouldn't It Be a Lot Easier TuskMoar Feb 2021 #48
Manchin giving Democrats control of the Senate means JonLP24 Feb 2021 #50
Yes, we still have the majority kcr Feb 2021 #54
No need to primary him. We need to concentrate on electing Senators in Purple or blue states. Autumn Feb 2021 #57
I share your frustration.... but no. Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #58
He'll laugh in the face of anyone who primary's him Polybius Feb 2021 #61
Manchin voted for the ACA and voted to convict Trump Yeehah Feb 2021 #65
Nope FrankBooth Feb 2021 #67
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