General Discussion

sir pball

(5,236 posts)

24. Ehhhhhh sort of

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 11:28 PM

Feb 2021

I have friends in the defense industry, and all I know is what they're allowed to tell me - but the 22 was designed with all this in mind, it's not THAT much older. The 35 is a cheaper, less stealth-and-superiority capable airframe that's been sold as the "Gen 5 F-16". If we had properly invested in the 22, and started upgrading it now as it's due, we wouldn't be nearly in this pickle. But the corporations would have made less money.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

58 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

For DU'ers who know this stuff, what are the advantages of the F-35 over the F-22, [View all] speak easy Feb 2021 OP

Approximately F-13 RockRaven Feb 2021 #1

... speak easy Feb 2021 #3

LOL! LymphocyteLover Feb 2021 #44

Bigger bombs that get dropped on people's heads. aikoaiko Feb 2021 #2

Forbes article says the F-35 doesn't do what it's supposed to do. albacore Feb 2021 #4

with all the problems GP6971 Feb 2021 #5

Yep, it's an absurdly over-priced dud that ironically was supposed to be... brush Feb 2021 #33

Huh? MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2021 #40

It's all due to a lot of bad bureaucratic regulation Klaralven Feb 2021 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author brush Feb 2021 #47

You're right. That of course should be close air support of the Air Force. brush Feb 2021 #48

Are you talking about old fashioned f-stops on a camera lens? fierywoman Feb 2021 #6

... speak easy Feb 2021 #8

AH! Thanks. Got it. fierywoman Feb 2021 #11

Well, the F35 started out being an inexpensive high-speed interceptor TrogL Feb 2021 #7

I'm retired Army. I don't know from USAF fast movers. TomSlick Feb 2021 #9

ty! speak easy Feb 2021 #13

it's partially made in vermont? nt msongs Feb 2021 #10

Heh! speak easy Feb 2021 #12

And they call Vermont home. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #16

$27 an hour :) speak easy Feb 2021 #17

The F-35 has more modern and capable avionics. Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #14

ty! speak easy Feb 2021 #15

Ehhhhhh sort of sir pball Feb 2021 #24

With all due respect... Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #29

"The F-35 cockpit is much more advanced." EX500rider Feb 2021 #50

Multirole ability, and marketability sir pball Feb 2021 #18

Thank you ! speak easy Feb 2021 #20

Bonus points for Zerg rush qazplm135 Feb 2021 #31

F-35 is more versatile Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy Feb 2021 #22

Far as I know, F-22 is unmatched in terms of air superiority. F-35 is a multi-role fighter Azathoth Feb 2021 #21

F-35 can see enemy jets coming way before they themselves are seen on applegrove Feb 2021 #23

ty! speak easy Feb 2021 #27

F-35 Pilot Reviews EX500rider Feb 2021 #25

ty - excellent reference. speak easy Feb 2021 #28

Profits to the contractor(s)? lastlib Feb 2021 #26

One big advantage is adaptability jmowreader Feb 2021 #30

Thank you. speak easy Feb 2021 #32

+1 Kaleva Feb 2021 #49

It's the 21st century. Manned fighter aircraft are useless in any serious war. hunter Feb 2021 #34

Syria was not a serious war? speak easy Feb 2021 #36

What happened in Syria? Did we "win?" hunter Feb 2021 #38

Russian (air) intervention turned the tide win favor of Assad. speak easy Feb 2021 #39

As if all those refugees care. hunter Feb 2021 #42

I have an idea onethatcares Feb 2021 #35

Flawless :) speak easy Feb 2021 #37

Maybe it is a little bit better ... but DO WE REALLY NEED IT? Tommymac Feb 2021 #43

I have another idea onethatcares Feb 2021 #46

"It was designed to fight a War that will NEVER happen." EX500rider Feb 2021 #51

Never said War will not happen...just that we will NOT fight the last war over again. Tommymac Feb 2021 #55

Your opinion, of course, but consider.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #56

All the responses are wrong, the correct answer is the F-35 pours contractor money into each state FSogol Feb 2021 #45

F-22 production wasn't exactly limited to one State either. nt EX500rider Feb 2021 #52

John Maynard Keynes -- paying people to dig holes so other people can fill them up. hunter Feb 2021 #53

Its all about the avionics / radar and how the stealth's capabilities the F-35 and F-22 turbinetree Feb 2021 #54

This is correct. Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #57

Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Feb 2021 #58