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EX500rider

(12,137 posts)
25. F-35 Pilot Reviews
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 11:30 PM
Feb 2021

"As more F-35 stealth fighters enter service their database of effective tactics and operating techniques is rapidly expanding. One thing the F-35 does extremely well is use automated flight controls that allow the pilot to carry out maneuvers that would require a lot more experience in older (F-15. Su-30) aircraft but are much easier for an F-35 pilot. The more experienced pilots know a lot more useful maneuvers than new pilots but because of the adaptive F-35 flight control software, it is much easier for new pilots to master an unfamiliar maneuver. The best way to explain this is the experience of British carrier pilots who formerly flew Harrier vertical takeoff and landing aircraft and were now using the F-35B (the vertical takeoff and landing version). The British pilots say difficult carrier landings that could be terrifying in a Harrier (which U.S. Marine Corps pilots also used on small carriers) were surprisingly easy with an F-35B. As British pilots began carrying out landings on the new British carrier they were pleasantly surprised. The F-35B flight control automatically adapted to all the rapidly changing wind and carrier movement variables and allowed you to land without a lot of stress. Handling the F-35B, in general, was much easier, and safer, than the Harrier. Hovering, for example, required a lot of continuous effort and attention from a Harrier pilot. In the F-35B the pilot could fly the aircraft to a position and hover and the aircraft would remain where it was flown to without additional effort by the pilots no matter how much the weather changed.

All this ease of flying enables F-35 pilots to concentrate on something that does still require a lot of decision making by the pilot; stealth management and threat management. The stealth characteristics of the F-35 make it more difficult for radar to detect it. How the pilots fly in a combat zone can improve the effectiveness of stealth. That is done by learning to manage the flood of “threat management” data that F-35 pilots have access to. By being able to concentrate on stealth and threat management F-35 pilots achieve what has been the key element in air combat since 1914; getting in the first shot. From 2014 into the 1940s the key to success in air-to-air combat was knowing how to fly into a position where you would see the enemy first and carry out a surprise attack. The earliest of these tricks was the World War I tactics of trying to have the sun behind you to make it more difficult for the enemy to see you coming. Another tactic was trying to get higher and out of sight (for as long as possible) until you could dive on the enemy aircraft in a high speed and unexpected attack. In effect, “stealth” and the resulting surprise was always the key to victory. The F-35 was designed with that in mind. The radar stealth and maneuverability isn’t as good as the F-22, but the F-35 “situational awareness” is much better. Pilots who have flown the F-22 and F-35 always note that and point out that, in the hands of an experienced pilot, it makes the F-35 a more effective aircraft than the older and more expensive F-22.

The F-35 was designed to have “affordable stealth” and much more effective sensors and electronics. The F-35 stealth is much less expensive than that in the F-22 and initial Israeli combat experience over Lebanon and Syria indicates that the stealth and internal electronic countermeasures more than make up to for that. The passive sensors and “sensor fusion” software of the F-35 also appear to be working as advertised. In the cockpit, the pilot has one large (20 inch diagonal) LCD showing all needed aircraft data with more showing on the pilots JHMDS helmet visor. That is all very well, but as with the very capable F-22, it wasn’t performance that limited procurement but excessive cost.

What the F-35 flight management software and situational awareness demonstrate is that the usual measures of a superior fighter aircraft (speed, maneuverability) no longer matter as much. An F-35 is more likely to see the other aircraft first, fire first and be more aware of the changing battle situation than enemy pilots in, on paper, faster and more maneuverable aircraft.
Even when the F-35 is hit and damaged the flight control software senses the damage and automatically flies differently to compensate for the damage. That takes a lot of stress off the pilot who can concentrate on threat and stealth management to complete the mission and get the aircraft back to base. Another important aspect of the F-35 is that its flight control and threat management software is built to be constantly updated by pilot experience. As more pilots fly the F-35 and experiment with different techniques, its software is updated to become more capable. Those updates require more attention to post-change testing. That’s because there are so many interconnections within the flight control software. Those have to be tested to prevent unexpected results when the pilot is most vulnerable to that sort of thing."

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20190429.aspx

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Approximately F-13 RockRaven Feb 2021 #1
... speak easy Feb 2021 #3
LOL! LymphocyteLover Feb 2021 #44
Bigger bombs that get dropped on people's heads. aikoaiko Feb 2021 #2
Forbes article says the F-35 doesn't do what it's supposed to do. albacore Feb 2021 #4
with all the problems GP6971 Feb 2021 #5
Yep, it's an absurdly over-priced dud that ironically was supposed to be... brush Feb 2021 #33
Huh? MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2021 #40
It's all due to a lot of bad bureaucratic regulation Klaralven Feb 2021 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Feb 2021 #47
You're right. That of course should be close air support of the Air Force. brush Feb 2021 #48
Are you talking about old fashioned f-stops on a camera lens? fierywoman Feb 2021 #6
... speak easy Feb 2021 #8
AH! Thanks. Got it. fierywoman Feb 2021 #11
Well, the F35 started out being an inexpensive high-speed interceptor TrogL Feb 2021 #7
I'm retired Army. I don't know from USAF fast movers. TomSlick Feb 2021 #9
ty! speak easy Feb 2021 #13
it's partially made in vermont? nt msongs Feb 2021 #10
Heh! speak easy Feb 2021 #12
And they call Vermont home. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #16
$27 an hour :) speak easy Feb 2021 #17
The F-35 has more modern and capable avionics. Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #14
ty! speak easy Feb 2021 #15
Ehhhhhh sort of sir pball Feb 2021 #24
With all due respect... Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #29
"The F-35 cockpit is much more advanced." EX500rider Feb 2021 #50
Multirole ability, and marketability sir pball Feb 2021 #18
Thank you ! speak easy Feb 2021 #20
Bonus points for Zerg rush qazplm135 Feb 2021 #31
F-35 is more versatile Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy Feb 2021 #22
Far as I know, F-22 is unmatched in terms of air superiority. F-35 is a multi-role fighter Azathoth Feb 2021 #21
F-35 can see enemy jets coming way before they themselves are seen on applegrove Feb 2021 #23
ty! speak easy Feb 2021 #27
F-35 Pilot Reviews EX500rider Feb 2021 #25
ty - excellent reference. speak easy Feb 2021 #28
Profits to the contractor(s)? lastlib Feb 2021 #26
One big advantage is adaptability jmowreader Feb 2021 #30
Thank you. speak easy Feb 2021 #32
+1 Kaleva Feb 2021 #49
It's the 21st century. Manned fighter aircraft are useless in any serious war. hunter Feb 2021 #34
Syria was not a serious war? speak easy Feb 2021 #36
What happened in Syria? Did we "win?" hunter Feb 2021 #38
Russian (air) intervention turned the tide win favor of Assad. speak easy Feb 2021 #39
As if all those refugees care. hunter Feb 2021 #42
I have an idea onethatcares Feb 2021 #35
Flawless :) speak easy Feb 2021 #37
Maybe it is a little bit better ... but DO WE REALLY NEED IT? Tommymac Feb 2021 #43
I have another idea onethatcares Feb 2021 #46
"It was designed to fight a War that will NEVER happen." EX500rider Feb 2021 #51
Never said War will not happen...just that we will NOT fight the last war over again. Tommymac Feb 2021 #55
Your opinion, of course, but consider.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #56
All the responses are wrong, the correct answer is the F-35 pours contractor money into each state FSogol Feb 2021 #45
F-22 production wasn't exactly limited to one State either. nt EX500rider Feb 2021 #52
John Maynard Keynes -- paying people to dig holes so other people can fill them up. hunter Feb 2021 #53
Its all about the avionics / radar and how the stealth's capabilities the F-35 and F-22 turbinetree Feb 2021 #54
This is correct. Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #57
Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Feb 2021 #58
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