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joshcryer

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33. True, but they won't read it that way. He's "getting out of Afghanistan!"

Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:21 AM

Jan 2012

From Ron Paul's view Afghanistan, military bases around the world, targeted killing are not part of our "national defense." That's what he means when he says he won't even take a penny from national defense. Don't double down here on the "penny" statement. Let it go, stick to the Afghanistan policy shift, point out that he's not leaving Afghanistan "within weeks" and that ultimately nothing will change.

In any event, Ron Paul is going to shift to the center as we go into South Carolina and it's going to be hilarious seeing people look like tools for having pushed Ron Paul's ideology on other progressives.

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What the hell is Ron Paul talking about? [View all] ProSense Jan 2012 OP

Do you think that $4 trillion+ in wars has made us safer? MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #1

Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #2

I think he cares MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #3

So ProSense Jan 2012 #5

You're misquoting Paul MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #8

Ah ProSense Jan 2012 #11

Please confirm: 100% of money spent on the military contributes to our defense MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #15

So ProSense Jan 2012 #18

If you can't answer my simple question in public, then MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #21

Nice ProSense Jan 2012 #24

You know this dsc Jan 2012 #50

He's lying on "this specific issue." Damn liar, and everyone who trusted him is looking... joshcryer Jan 2012 #6

Of course he cares. He cares about Ron Paul. And he cares a lot about Ron Paul. REP Jan 2012 #47

Ron Paul will balance the budget "without cutting from...national defense" DJ13 Jan 2012 #4

No ProSense Jan 2012 #9

he has been attacking the MIC. He's pushing propaganda. DJ13 Jan 2012 #10

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #12

Woah. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #37

I agree with you that's being read wrong, but "calmly and deliberately" is definitely a shift. joshcryer Jan 2012 #13

Wrong? ProSense Jan 2012 #20

He ties it to overseas spending in the very speech you link. joshcryer Jan 2012 #25

And ProSense Jan 2012 #27

Yes, so 1 for Paul, 1 for you. Should've left it at the Afghanistan policy shift. joshcryer Jan 2012 #29

Huh? ProSense Jan 2012 #32

True, but they won't read it that way. He's "getting out of Afghanistan!" joshcryer Jan 2012 #33

Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #35

It's mish mashed rhetoric. Some can read it the way you do. They're lied to. joshcryer Jan 2012 #36

True ProSense Jan 2012 #38

Yes, but you're not playing the game... Skip Intro Jan 2012 #16

Or we can judge things piece by piece and agree and disagree on what parts... joshcryer Jan 2012 #19

It's **RON PAUL**. He's made a career of not making sense. baldguy Jan 2012 #7

I think the point he is trying to make (poorly) Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #14

it's simple SixthSense Jan 2012 #17

Good luck getting the contractors out of the military, Paul Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #22

Why would anyone believe a career politician?! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #23

Does that include Obama? Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #26

Obama will be retired before he is. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #34

Because ProSense Jan 2012 #28

That's a doozy of a post, right there!! Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #30

Ron Paul doesn't even have any endorsements. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #31

Wow, Bush and McCain endorsed Romney, so... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #42

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Monkey pancakes. n/t Rincewind Jan 2012 #41

I would love to know BootinUp Jan 2012 #44

EarlG posted it in an image, can't find an earlier variant: joshcryer Jan 2012 #45

We get it, we get it: You prefer Romney. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #43

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He's a truthteller n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #52

He followed those statements with a 20 minute... MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #48

I don't see what the confusion is. Prometheus Bound Jan 2012 #49

The only way you wouldn't get it is if you didn't want to get it. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #54

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It's telling that you choose this point of attack. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #53

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #55

Muh-huh? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #56

There ProSense Jan 2012 #57

What you really want to "leave alone" is the military industrial complex. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #60

Funny how he mentions the Soviets spending themselves to oblivion Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #58

Excellent point, and ProSense Jan 2012 #59