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51. Bullshit!

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 05:03 PM

Feb 2021

She could, if she wanted to spend the political capital, overrule the parliamentarian. At that point, there would need to be at least two--and perhaps more--repug senators firmly prepared to vote for it. The vice president cannot simply will it to be passed.

As much as we want the minimum wage raised to $15, and it is very important, it is most critical to get the rest of this stimulus bill passed and signed into law!

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Kamala Harris Could Deliver $15 Minimum Wage If Democrats Really Wanted It [View all] White Fox Feb 2021 OP

She can over rule it and then Manchin and Senema bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #1

Sinema and manchin will vote for it if it's in the bill jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #15

Really, because they have said just the opposite still_one Feb 2021 #17

She did not say she wouldn't vote for the full bill jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #20

I wouldn't count on it. This is an absurd Rolling Stone speculation. Sanders ammendment still_one Feb 2021 #24

Oh I agree. It isn't gonna be in the bill jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #26

I agree, I think it is much better Jorge still_one Feb 2021 #29

Absolutely jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #31

Saying you will vote against he COVID bill Miguelito Loveless Feb 2021 #61

yeah, they are susan collins concerned. mopinko Feb 2021 #59

agreed, but alas . .. Iliyah Feb 2021 #25

Then Manchin and Sinema get to own it Miguelito Loveless Feb 2021 #60

They aren't going to "sink" the entire COVID bill FBaggins Feb 2021 #64

My point exactly Miguelito Loveless Feb 2021 #67

It's passed time we moved into the 21st Century. 20 years passed, in fact. rickyhall Feb 2021 #2

This is hooey mcar Feb 2021 #3

True. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #5

+1 nt PunkinPi Feb 2021 #6

Low grade hooey grantcart Feb 2021 #8

What's the level of hooey to malarkey? mcar Feb 2021 #9

Excellent mcar!!! still_one Feb 2021 #18

Yup... No matter how often this same thing is posted, without the votes, it is meaningless hlthe2b Feb 2021 #11

+1 betsuni Feb 2021 #68

Do Sinema and Manchin tirebiter Feb 2021 #4

LOL still_one Feb 2021 #22

Could this partisan Supreme Court call the whole bill unconstitutional if Bonn1997 Feb 2021 #7

Interesting question SCantiGOP Feb 2021 #10

no still_one Feb 2021 #19

Yes Yes Yes krawhitham Feb 2021 #44

I really hate headlines like this Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2021 #12

Bullshit. More blame the woman crap. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #13

No she couldn't. We won't have 50 votes for the covid relief bill with the $15 minimum wage in it. lapucelle Feb 2021 #14

We would likely actually have it jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #21

Fire/overrule the parliamentarian, maybe not have enough votes, take the provision out anyway... lapucelle Feb 2021 #28

I don't think questionable tactics would be an issue. jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #30

You should really watch Lawrence O'Donnell's show last night, OnDoutside Feb 2021 #32

Agreed. jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #35

Yes, he believes that there is already a better way to do this that OnDoutside Feb 2021 #37

Very clever! jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #39

If Wyden's provision is acceptable to all 50 Dems, great. I think OnDoutside Feb 2021 #42

Hopefully we just get the votes at some point to abolish the fillibuster. jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #43

Where you had two sides displaying a certain amount of good faith, OnDoutside Feb 2021 #45

Ohhh absolutely. Especially with what arizona is doing. jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #46

Yes, she has a difficult line to walk but I am confident Pelosi knows OnDoutside Feb 2021 #48

Not to mention down ballot Dems were largely hurt by the lack of in person field jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #50

Yes that was a big error for sure. Add that to the list ! OnDoutside Feb 2021 #57

I think it would be an issue with the press, and in their eyes Biden, Harris, and Schumer lapucelle Feb 2021 #33

I like to think the press wouldn't stoop that low. jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #36

No they will not BlueLucy Feb 2021 #53

He is not just being pushed by democrats. jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #54

We knew this 3 weeks ago. BlueLucy Feb 2021 #58

We need to try jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #62

We could have a $15 minimum wage if even a handful of fucking Republicans would vote for it. Midnight Writer Feb 2021 #16

+1 betsuni Feb 2021 #69

12 is more than a handful. Celerity Feb 2021 #71

If she did this, a vote will be forced overruling her. jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #23

Manchin and Simena could stall the bill until the minimum wage was removed no matter what andym Feb 2021 #27

I think the latter is more true than the former -as it would be easier. jorgevlorgan Feb 2021 #34

Yet again with the mystical powers of the presiding officer? FBaggins Feb 2021 #38

Isn't it worth a try? Silent3 Feb 2021 #47

Votes aren't generally skipped because losing the vote is possible FBaggins Feb 2021 #63

Yet another calling out of Democrats out as callous, spineless hypocrites, Hortensis Feb 2021 #40

+1000000000 betsuni Feb 2021 #70

WE NEED THE 15 MIN WAGE!! CALL YOUR SENATORS NOW. Trueblue1968 Feb 2021 #41

Biden said he would accept the parliament's ruling. marie999 Feb 2021 #49

Bullshit! Still Sensible Feb 2021 #51

They could get $11.00/hr which is alot better than nothing. everyonematters Feb 2021 #52

Sorry, but Harris would be facing the exact same issue that Biden is, probably worse. msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #55

Trashed for trying to trash VP Harris. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #56

Not without support from Manchin and Sienema LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2021 #65

Aren't you are the energizer bunny on this issue. Less than a week on DU and 2 bullshit post GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #66

This narrative was designed by the alt-left on social media to scapegoat Kamala. radius777 Feb 2021 #72

Sez *who* - I voted against on this post UTUSN Feb 2021 #73

No she cannot LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #74

This is true... but also a bit deceptive FBaggins Mar 2021 #75

I hate to break it to you but the votes for a nuclear option do not exist LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #76

Of course not FBaggins Mar 2021 #77

It would be easier and less risky Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #78