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Celerity

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20. We ran a weak, non-native ( a big deal in Maine) candidate, and Collins took Manchin's endorsement
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:26 AM
Mar 2021

pf her and ran with it to falsely boost her phoney bi-partisan act. Gideon did not move to Maine until the mid noughties, when she as already in her 30's. Collin's campaign tore into her for that as well.

Stephen King would have beaten Collins, a native Mainer, and a legend. We did such a shit job at recruiting in so many states.

Let me just list them quickly (and the ones who refused to run who were our best hope, in some cases only hope, ie TN and KS.

ME (Stephen King)

KS (Sebelius, our only hope and it was an OPEN SEAT)

TN (Tim McGraw, twice (2018 especially, plus 2020) turned down running for OPEN SEATS after promising for years he would run when he was 50. He likely would have won, perhaps somewhat easily in 2018, and had a better shot than who ended up our nominee in 2020).

IA (Vilsack or Axne would have been stronger than Greenfield)

NC (the fool Cunningham with his sexting scandal late in the game killed us, he had a wee bit of lead (and growing) lead before, BUT there were far better candidates before that shit anyway as well, especially Jeff Jackson, who should pick up the 2022 open seat hopefully. Foxx and Stein also could have spared us Cunningham)

AK (we did not even field a Dem candidate, a previous Dem US Senate winner, Begich, refused to run)

then the pre-decided and the 'it didn't matter'

KY (that goose was cooked when Beshear decided to run (at least he won! ) for Governor in 2019. No other candidate would have had a chance against McTreason.)

TX (did not matter, even Beto would have lost to the vermin Cornyn.)


Finally, we shit away over 300 million usd on fantasyland races in SC, KY, TX, and ME (to a point with ME) and thsu we ended with two cash-starved campaigns (MT especially, and IA) who had leads, especially Bullock, but were BURIED by 200 million usd in RW dark money nuclear flame-thrower attack adverts, and neither MT or IA have the cash to counter.

The most egregious was SC, where Harrison took one (that was a huge outlier) poll over a month out that showed him tied with graham, and then ran weeks on non stop adverts using just that poll. It convinced so many (falsely) that he had a shot (many Dem actually thought he was the clear favourite, smdh) when the reality was he was never in the hunt actually. Charlie Cook, a true hack, was all over hyping it up as a toss-up and said he was likely to put to lean Dem. I never put it on my possible list, and when pressed at my uni here by some fellow instructors from the Poli Sci department, said Graham would win by 11 to 12 points. I was off, but not by much, he won by 10.5.


The poor, poor recruiting by Schumer and Cortez Masto really bit us in the ass, and also the poor money distribution. I am just furious at dick-text Cunningham, and then pretty angry with Tim McGraw (especially for 2018! Blue Wave and him as candidate equals NO ultra MAGAtette Blackburn) and also Sebelius (all the KS newspapers said she was the only Dem in last 50 years with a chance, and it was an open seat, grr). Irritated, not furious (I like his novels, lol) with Stephen King. Disappointed that Jeff Jackson did not run (ths no Cunningham scandal), but hopefully he wins in 2022.

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Are one of them your senators ? JI7 Mar 2021 #1
No- but their actions affect me, you and everyone else friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #3
Why not focus on WINNING more democratic seats so someone like Manchin JI7 Mar 2021 #2
If the GOP gets their various voting suppression laws enacted, there won't BE any. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #4
Are you from West Virginia ? JI7 Mar 2021 #9
No. And now, a question for you: Does Manchin refuse out-of-state money? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #13
Manchin isn't going to lose the Primary to someone to the left of him . JI7 Mar 2021 #15
"I prefer to focus on beating...shitty republicans." Me too, but the GOP wants to stack the deck friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #18
Those Maine Biden/Collins ticket splitters really hurt. Funtatlaguy Mar 2021 #6
We ran a weak, non-native ( a big deal in Maine) candidate, and Collins took Manchin's endorsement Celerity Mar 2021 #20
Great post. Cunningham's pecker cost us NC. Sigh. Funtatlaguy Mar 2021 #24
The Senate is sorta my thing (the House a bit too). I had us winning 52 seats, maybe 53, but Celerity Mar 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Funtatlaguy Mar 2021 #25
I had forgotten about Manchin's endorsement of Collins. The support for this hack merely because... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #26
Well yes we would qazplm135 Mar 2021 #14
"Senator John Fetterman" does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #17
Let's try to win other seats so we don't need them. bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #5
Mitch is *already* calling the shots- SB1 is dead without elimination of the filibuster friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #7
No, If Mitch was calling the shots we would not even have a chance of passing what we do JI7 Mar 2021 #10
No. Flip the low hanging fruit and make them irrelevant again. meadowlander Mar 2021 #8
In your opinion, which Senate seats do you feel are 'low hanging fruit' in '22 and/or '24? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #11
Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin. meadowlander Mar 2021 #28
I'd actually prefer Manchin and Sinema retain their seats- but their opposition to voting reform... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #33
Why? The next cycle is 2 years away. By then, the only chance to eliminate it will be gone forever PSPS Mar 2021 #12
That's exactly what will happen if Manchin and Sinema don't change course on the filibuster friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #16
If we fail to pass voting reform, losing those Senate seats will hardly matter. Crunchy Frog Mar 2021 #19
To put it bluntly, Manchin and Sinema are obstructing that voting reform friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #21
I know. And if they obstruct it sufficiently, they'll make themselves irrelevant. Crunchy Frog Mar 2021 #23
Not unless the aspiring candidate is strong enough to beat the Republican. pnwmom Mar 2021 #22
It won't matter if the GOP rigs the game, and then he'll lose his power as kingmaker... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #30
As long as he's in the Senate, he counts toward the 50 or 51 votes we need pnwmom Mar 2021 #32
Except we won't *have* those votes, because the GOP is actively trying to suppress voting: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #34
Manchin votes with progressives about 60% of the time pnwmom Mar 2021 #36
in a perfect world orleans Mar 2021 #27
Moscow Mitch *will* be running the Senate again, and we will be the minority party forever... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #31
Only Feinstein, IF she runs again (and the filibuster is not the only reason). Manchin and Celerity Mar 2021 #35
I forget who said it, but there's a cynical (but accurate) description of the two parties: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #38
we may need the filibuster sooner than you think ..... rampartc Mar 2021 #37
I think we can pick up 3 or 4 Senate seats, and retain the House, *if*... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #39
that is a big IF rampartc Mar 2021 #40
and, ironically, the filibuster is going to stop the new Voter's Rights Act dead in its tracks Celerity Mar 2021 #42
i am with you, celerity rampartc Mar 2021 #43
Biden can veto, (and that is only needed if they have the House as well) and historically, the Celerity Mar 2021 #41
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