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35. Only Feinstein, IF she runs again (and the filibuster is not the only reason). Manchin and

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Thu Mar 4, 2021, 03:31 AM

Mar 2021

Sinema are pointless to primary, we will lose the seats for sure (especially WV) and Manchin quite likely will lose 4 years (a little less now) from now in the general anyway, especially if Justice runs (Justice, as an actual West Virginian explained on another thread, has now outflanked Manchin on the left AND on the right).

Feinstein is also completely against SCOTUS expansion (and expansion of the lower federal courts too), plus she will be 97 at the end of that next term (98 five months after it ends) if she runs for re-election. The Senate is not a place to try and make it to near 100 years of age in, especially for a Senator that is so out of touch with my home state (on balance, as we do have ratfucker MAGAts in large numbers as well, simply becuase we have 40 million residents) on multiple HUGE issues.

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Should Democrats who oppose ending the filibuster be primaried? [View all] friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 OP

Are one of them your senators ? JI7 Mar 2021 #1

No- but their actions affect me, you and everyone else friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #3

Why not focus on WINNING more democratic seats so someone like Manchin JI7 Mar 2021 #2

If the GOP gets their various voting suppression laws enacted, there won't BE any. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #4

Are you from West Virginia ? JI7 Mar 2021 #9

No. And now, a question for you: Does Manchin refuse out-of-state money? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #13

Manchin isn't going to lose the Primary to someone to the left of him . JI7 Mar 2021 #15

"I prefer to focus on beating...shitty republicans." Me too, but the GOP wants to stack the deck friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #18

Those Maine Biden/Collins ticket splitters really hurt. Funtatlaguy Mar 2021 #6

We ran a weak, non-native ( a big deal in Maine) candidate, and Collins took Manchin's endorsement Celerity Mar 2021 #20

Great post. Cunningham's pecker cost us NC. Sigh. Funtatlaguy Mar 2021 #24

The Senate is sorta my thing (the House a bit too). I had us winning 52 seats, maybe 53, but Celerity Mar 2021 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Funtatlaguy Mar 2021 #25

I had forgotten about Manchin's endorsement of Collins. The support for this hack merely because... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #26

Well yes we would qazplm135 Mar 2021 #14

"Senator John Fetterman" does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #17

Let's try to win other seats so we don't need them. bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #5

Mitch is *already* calling the shots- SB1 is dead without elimination of the filibuster friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #7

No, If Mitch was calling the shots we would not even have a chance of passing what we do JI7 Mar 2021 #10

No. Flip the low hanging fruit and make them irrelevant again. meadowlander Mar 2021 #8

In your opinion, which Senate seats do you feel are 'low hanging fruit' in '22 and/or '24? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #11

Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin. meadowlander Mar 2021 #28

I'd actually prefer Manchin and Sinema retain their seats- but their opposition to voting reform... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #33

Why? The next cycle is 2 years away. By then, the only chance to eliminate it will be gone forever PSPS Mar 2021 #12

That's exactly what will happen if Manchin and Sinema don't change course on the filibuster friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #16

If we fail to pass voting reform, losing those Senate seats will hardly matter. Crunchy Frog Mar 2021 #19

To put it bluntly, Manchin and Sinema are obstructing that voting reform friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #21

I know. And if they obstruct it sufficiently, they'll make themselves irrelevant. Crunchy Frog Mar 2021 #23

Not unless the aspiring candidate is strong enough to beat the Republican. pnwmom Mar 2021 #22

It won't matter if the GOP rigs the game, and then he'll lose his power as kingmaker... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #30

As long as he's in the Senate, he counts toward the 50 or 51 votes we need pnwmom Mar 2021 #32

Except we won't *have* those votes, because the GOP is actively trying to suppress voting: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #34

Manchin votes with progressives about 60% of the time pnwmom Mar 2021 #36

in a perfect world orleans Mar 2021 #27

Moscow Mitch *will* be running the Senate again, and we will be the minority party forever... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #31

Only Feinstein, IF she runs again (and the filibuster is not the only reason). Manchin and Celerity Mar 2021 #35

I forget who said it, but there's a cynical (but accurate) description of the two parties: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #38

we may need the filibuster sooner than you think ..... rampartc Mar 2021 #37

I think we can pick up 3 or 4 Senate seats, and retain the House, *if*... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #39

that is a big IF rampartc Mar 2021 #40

and, ironically, the filibuster is going to stop the new Voter's Rights Act dead in its tracks Celerity Mar 2021 #42

i am with you, celerity rampartc Mar 2021 #43

Biden can veto, (and that is only needed if they have the House as well) and historically, the Celerity Mar 2021 #41