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Ocelot II

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22. Because of Vietnam, LBJ probably got a lot less credit than he deserved

Reply to JI7 (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 6, 2021, 11:02 PM

Mar 2021

for civil rights legislation at the time.

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I wonder if watching how Biden is turning out is sort of like what it was to see LBJ [View all] dsc Mar 2021 OP

I agree...Biden may turn out like LBJ in some ways... Sancho Mar 2021 #1

I hope no Vietnam.... dawg day Mar 2021 #2

yeah he is even working on getting rid of the war authorization from 9/11 dsc Mar 2021 #5

That horrible gawddamn war ruined his presidency. Duppers Mar 2021 #28

I didn't realize what a progressive president PatSeg Mar 2021 #51

History will judge. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2021 #3

After that 2016 election, I will never view this country's people the same as Blue_true Mar 2021 #37

RFK Tomconroy Mar 2021 #4

Welcome to DU, and... babylonsister Mar 2021 #11

RFK Tomconroy Mar 2021 #18

He walked the streets In Indianapolis, too. murielm99 Mar 2021 #39

Wow... electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #41

I lost my first husband when I was 27. murielm99 Mar 2021 #44

Welcome to our DU family. niyad Mar 2021 #38

If he keeps this up Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #6

I've been a Biden fan from bamagal62 Mar 2021 #20

Same for me. pazzyanne Mar 2021 #25

Much of what LBJ did was overshadowed by Vietnam, so it's hard to compare. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #7

Not really overshadowed for those who follow civil rights JI7 Mar 2021 #10

Maybe, but what I remember most vividly about those years Ocelot II Mar 2021 #13

I understand what you mean JI7 Mar 2021 #17

Because of Vietnam, LBJ probably got a lot less credit than he deserved Ocelot II Mar 2021 #22

This is true. soldierant Mar 2021 #36

my memory is LBJ having lots of democrats in congress nt msongs Mar 2021 #8

I think LBJ is a better comparison in some ways than FDR JI7 Mar 2021 #9

Both were what they genuinely were when elected, never what Hortensis Mar 2021 #12

My biggest fear with Biden was he believed that stuff he was saying dsc Mar 2021 #16

I think that was more about his being aware of how people viewed him JI7 Mar 2021 #19

Imo, though, no one should ever have. Why would any of us know more Hortensis Mar 2021 #21

In fairness, much of the Civil Rights prelim-work was done under JFK... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #14

President Biden can end up as one of the great Presidents in history. Blue_true Mar 2021 #34

And part of JFK's growing understanding was after... electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #42

I disagree...facing reelection, I do not believe Kennedy would have pursued it. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #47

Absolutely Incredible jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #15

Joe is going to be one of our greatest Presidents. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #23

My parents loved JFK. BadgerMom Mar 2021 #24

I supported him early on. mzmolly Mar 2021 #26

I was initially for Senator Warren. Blue_true Mar 2021 #30

Biden PLUS Schumer PLUS Pelosi. They all deserve the credit. pnwmom Mar 2021 #27

It was actually the blue dogs Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #48

Yes, ULTIMATELY. But I remember when AOC was on the dump Pelosi team. pnwmom Mar 2021 #53

I am one here that see LBJ as accomplishing more good legislatively than FDR. Blue_true Mar 2021 #29

What I didn't know until about mid '00s was that FDR... electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #43

FDR was racist toward Japanese, Jewish people and maybe American Indians Blue_true Mar 2021 #54

I think Joe is quite different as are the circumstances Jarqui Mar 2021 #31

I'm in my 70s, and as far as getting important bills passed LBJ was the best I've seen.... George II Mar 2021 #32

It was also a different world back then. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #33

Well, he has exceeded my wildest expectations for him, that is sure. PatrickforB Mar 2021 #35

Yes - except I think we can count on Biden to not be hoodwinked into some quagmire war sandensea Mar 2021 #40

Thank you. I always believed he was the right guy for the job. I used to say Biden was Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #45

Like LBJ---minus the daily anti-war demonstrations. (nt) Paladin Mar 2021 #46

Bigger difference was that in 1963 through 1964, Democrats had 66 Senators karynnj Mar 2021 #49

I voted for Buttigieg dsc Mar 2021 #50

I really liked Inslee and Buttigieg as well karynnj Mar 2021 #52