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i know.. i just hold my breath. I truely feel for those Dem senators in red areas...we DO samnsara Mar 2021 #1
Their job is to represent their constituents. aocommunalpunch Mar 2021 #3
That's not true. Manchin, for one, comes from a state that chose Trump by a HUGE margin. pnwmom Mar 2021 #46
WV constituents need/want money. Trump himself supported radius777 Mar 2021 #83
Manchin supported the payments, which, when added to the first 600, pnwmom Mar 2021 #84
True, but he was hemming and hawing radius777 Mar 2021 #85
Other than Manchin and lesser extent Tester USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #5
Have you noticed that Arizona has a GOP governor and legislature. It is not purple yet. You won't Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #16
I am done with your crappy analysis USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #22
Have a great day...no really. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #27
And being purple means the state is more centrist, not progressive enough pnwmom Mar 2021 #47
Warnock and Ossoff were victims of very negative campaigns using the words and policies.... George II Mar 2021 #61
A Couple Of Things To Remember, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #2
This USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #4
True, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #7
Excellent analysis nt Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #9
Nope moderate Democrats gave us both the House and Senate and that is a fact. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #17
Rolling eyes USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #21
This. Very well stated NewHendoLib Mar 2021 #6
Just so ibegurpard Mar 2021 #32
Moderates may also be elected as Democrats because the voter, pnwmom Mar 2021 #48
Moderates may also be elected as Democrats because the voter, pnwmom Mar 2021 #49
+1. and Biden/Ossoff/Warnock are mainstream center-left liberal Democrats, radius777 Mar 2021 #81
All politics is local...the candidate must fit the district/state they're running in... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #8
That Is Widely Understood, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #10
Exactly. The WV gov was asking for the $15 minimum wage. Manchin is protecting himself Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #14
The Democrats could not vote for the bill because the parliamentarian said it could not be done in Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #18
Two Points, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2021 #24
First of all, the House is going to vote on the Senate bill or so I hear...no conference. There Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #25
I Agree, Ma'am, There Should Be Further Bills To Raise The Wage The Magistrate Mar 2021 #33
Voting down minimum wage is not moderate. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #11
I have had problems with both Sinema and Manchin on this latest bill dsc Mar 2021 #12
A $15 minimum wage passed in FLORIDA, a Trump state, by a 2 to 1 margin. bullwinkle428 Mar 2021 #13
Sad that this needs repeating on a regular basis mcar Mar 2021 #15
We would lose our majority. Same old bullshit that cost us 08,10 and 16. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #19
Biden hasn't been in office for 2 months yet mcar Mar 2021 #20
If we lose, it is on them that no Democratic policy is passed. You have to be realistic and do what Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #26
That's right mcar Mar 2021 #29
I know it is trying to one's patience treestar Mar 2021 #23
I fully understand the need of horses for courses, but what Manchin and Sinema Celerity Mar 2021 #28
The Covid bill which they both voted for is a good bill...so let's be happy about that. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #30
from what I see, Manchin singlehandedly chopped almost 2000 usd from millions of adults/voters in UE Celerity Mar 2021 #34
Funny you didn't mention the downticket races in 2020 wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #31
It tells me that far-left candidates would have performed even worse. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #35
there are no 'far-left' Dems currently in Congress, and none that even won a primary Celerity Mar 2021 #36
No it's not. It's reality. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #37
Wrong on all points, and your continuing to call them 'far left' hurts our party. Celerity Mar 2021 #39
It's all relative. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #40
You, by falsely labelling them as far left, are helping to perpetuate that warped reality. It is Celerity Mar 2021 #41
LOL NurseJackie Mar 2021 #42
Yup. There seems to be a huge rehab push here. Nixie Mar 2021 #75
Oh, that's a great way to describe it. Perfect analysis! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #87
Celerity, what's WRONG with "far left"? A lot of people here don't Hortensis Mar 2021 #66
That... was fantastic! Thank for your thoughts and analysis! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #88
Hear Hear, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2021 #89
Let's say there are 100 people in a group. Of them 60 are in the middle.... George II Mar 2021 #62
Yet nary a word or scorn is uttered when "Conservadem" or "DINO" is bandied about... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #63
I saw good Democratic candidates labeled as far left LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #73
yes, and fellow Democrats using that false label, like i said here and on other threads, enables Celerity Mar 2021 #79
Again, your analysis is simply wrong and misguided LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #80
You miss the underlying points and are fixated only with your narrative. I AM talking about non deep Celerity Mar 2021 #82
All 112 Democrats who supported M4A won in 2020 wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #43
What a diverse country we have! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #44
All M4A candidates winning isn't "diverse" wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #45
This old canard has been debunked dozens of times. Vermont-style politicians... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #50
How many were in purple or red-leaning districts? My guess is very few if any, and "M4A" wasn't.... George II Mar 2021 #57
That is not really true...Biden did not run on the M4A and he won. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #65
A number of moderates lost because the far left "agenda" was used against them in their campaigns... George II Mar 2021 #59
Not funny that you're Not Acknowledging Cha Mar 2021 #69
There is nothing "moderate" about... Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #38
It violates the rules of reconciliation, and everyone knows it. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #51
Aw c'mon.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #52
First, #FactsMatter NurseJackie Mar 2021 #54
Almost everything you listed there Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #55
Lulz. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #56
You do realize that we lack the votes to over turn the filibuster in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #64
Not "tradition". Reconciliation bills fall under a set of rules, they're not customary bills... George II Mar 2021 #74
The republicans didn't need the filibuster to defeat adding the minimum wage to the bill.... George II Mar 2021 #60
Manchin said today he is open to getting rid of the filibuster for the voting bill...and other Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #53
Yes we did, and we maintained the majority last year with mostly moderate candidates.... George II Mar 2021 #58
8 years not decades Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #68
Check who represented Staten Island, the predominant section of the CURRENT 11th District... George II Mar 2021 #70
Yes a democrat won in 2008 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #71
Read my post again, it was republican from at least 1981 to 2011 (that's THIRTY years, "decades")... George II Mar 2021 #72
I read both your posts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #77
The point is that Staten Island is in a RED district that has been dominated by republicans.... George II Mar 2021 #78
I wasn't commenting on your point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #86
Manchin and Sinema are endangering the chances of other Democrats. Voters expect results. DTomlinson Mar 2021 #67
Yesterday voters got results, without skirting the rules of reconciliation. George II Mar 2021 #76
"the rules of reconciliation." DTomlinson Mar 2021 #90
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