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Hortensis

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13. I've been liberal and progressive all my life, with all the ideals

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 7, 2021, 06:58 PM

Mar 2021

and ideal you imagine are only for others.

I belong to America's giant liberal bloc who invented and share those ideals. I could and would never join the oppositional faction that just calls itself "Progressive" because I believe they're fundamentally very misguided at best and always, sooner or later, fail to achieve the goals they claim. Even sometimes are lead to betray them by oppositional passions. Remember 2016.

Watching the Biden administration is a chance to clarify who stands for what, and also terribly important who can deliver.

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With responsibilities come pragmatism [View all] drray23 Mar 2021 OP

In comparison to the GOP, helping people has become progressive. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #1

Political progressivism is belief that government should be used to Hortensis Mar 2021 #2

I think being progressive is more than your description. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #9

Irish, THOSE are all modern Democratic Party liberal ideals. Hortensis Mar 2021 #10

A government of the people, by the people, for the people would not always guarantee Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #12

I've been liberal and progressive all my life, with all the ideals Hortensis Mar 2021 #13

They bought his vote giving him the position just as they did in '91 not putting up LizBeth Mar 2021 #3

"The Bernie of old would have bucked and voted against it." I seriously doubt this. scarletwoman Mar 2021 #4

I agree pecosbob Mar 2021 #7

+1. Bernie has always been a more pragmatic legislator than what his presidential campaigns DTomlinson Mar 2021 #11

How is putting up an amendment that can't be done in reconciliation... AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #5

I was thinking about this also while I was posting my thoughts. But did not want to get into LizBeth Mar 2021 #6

Don't brag about hiring the best people. Hire the best people. rickyhall Mar 2021 #8

Especially don't brag about hiring the best people when you're clearly hiring the WORST people. DTomlinson Mar 2021 #14