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radius777

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85. True, but he was hemming and hawing

Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:35 AM

Mar 2021

until Kamala went into the state to light a fire under his ass, and Gov Justice piled on, even going so far to say 'who cares if we waste some money... go big' - whereas Manchin has the mindset of squeezing off what people can get. It was Manchin we have to thank for the $300 unemployment assistance instead of $400, and for reducing the eligibility for the $1400 checks so less people will get it. These actions are not because he's in a red state (that we've established the residents and the Gov want the money) but because he's cares more about what the Chamber of Commerce types think.

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We won the House in 2018 with MODERATE candidates in swing districts... [View all] brooklynite Mar 2021 OP

i know.. i just hold my breath. I truely feel for those Dem senators in red areas...we DO samnsara Mar 2021 #1

Their job is to represent their constituents. aocommunalpunch Mar 2021 #3

That's not true. Manchin, for one, comes from a state that chose Trump by a HUGE margin. pnwmom Mar 2021 #46

WV constituents need/want money. Trump himself supported radius777 Mar 2021 #83

Manchin supported the payments, which, when added to the first 600, pnwmom Mar 2021 #84

True, but he was hemming and hawing radius777 Mar 2021 #85

Other than Manchin and lesser extent Tester USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #5

Have you noticed that Arizona has a GOP governor and legislature. It is not purple yet. You won't Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #16

I am done with your crappy analysis USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #22

Have a great day...no really. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #27

And being purple means the state is more centrist, not progressive enough pnwmom Mar 2021 #47

Warnock and Ossoff were victims of very negative campaigns using the words and policies.... George II Mar 2021 #61

A Couple Of Things To Remember, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #2

This USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #4

True, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #7

Excellent analysis nt Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #9

Nope moderate Democrats gave us both the House and Senate and that is a fact. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #17

Rolling eyes USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #21

This. Very well stated NewHendoLib Mar 2021 #6

Just so ibegurpard Mar 2021 #32

Moderates may also be elected as Democrats because the voter, pnwmom Mar 2021 #48

Moderates may also be elected as Democrats because the voter, pnwmom Mar 2021 #49

+1. and Biden/Ossoff/Warnock are mainstream center-left liberal Democrats, radius777 Mar 2021 #81

All politics is local...the candidate must fit the district/state they're running in... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #8

That Is Widely Understood, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #10

Exactly. The WV gov was asking for the $15 minimum wage. Manchin is protecting himself Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #14

The Democrats could not vote for the bill because the parliamentarian said it could not be done in Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #18

Two Points, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2021 #24

First of all, the House is going to vote on the Senate bill or so I hear...no conference. There Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #25

I Agree, Ma'am, There Should Be Further Bills To Raise The Wage The Magistrate Mar 2021 #33

Voting down minimum wage is not moderate. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #11

I have had problems with both Sinema and Manchin on this latest bill dsc Mar 2021 #12

A $15 minimum wage passed in FLORIDA, a Trump state, by a 2 to 1 margin. bullwinkle428 Mar 2021 #13

Sad that this needs repeating on a regular basis mcar Mar 2021 #15

We would lose our majority. Same old bullshit that cost us 08,10 and 16. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #19

Biden hasn't been in office for 2 months yet mcar Mar 2021 #20

If we lose, it is on them that no Democratic policy is passed. You have to be realistic and do what Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #26

That's right mcar Mar 2021 #29

I know it is trying to one's patience treestar Mar 2021 #23

I fully understand the need of horses for courses, but what Manchin and Sinema Celerity Mar 2021 #28

The Covid bill which they both voted for is a good bill...so let's be happy about that. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #30

from what I see, Manchin singlehandedly chopped almost 2000 usd from millions of adults/voters in UE Celerity Mar 2021 #34

Funny you didn't mention the downticket races in 2020 wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #31

It tells me that far-left candidates would have performed even worse. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #35

there are no 'far-left' Dems currently in Congress, and none that even won a primary Celerity Mar 2021 #36

No it's not. It's reality. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #37

Wrong on all points, and your continuing to call them 'far left' hurts our party. Celerity Mar 2021 #39

It's all relative. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #40

You, by falsely labelling them as far left, are helping to perpetuate that warped reality. It is Celerity Mar 2021 #41

LOL NurseJackie Mar 2021 #42

Yup. There seems to be a huge rehab push here. Nixie Mar 2021 #75

Oh, that's a great way to describe it. Perfect analysis! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #87

Celerity, what's WRONG with "far left"? A lot of people here don't Hortensis Mar 2021 #66

That... was fantastic! Thank for your thoughts and analysis! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #88

Hear Hear, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2021 #89

Let's say there are 100 people in a group. Of them 60 are in the middle.... George II Mar 2021 #62

Yet nary a word or scorn is uttered when "Conservadem" or "DINO" is bandied about... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #63

I saw good Democratic candidates labeled as far left LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #73

yes, and fellow Democrats using that false label, like i said here and on other threads, enables Celerity Mar 2021 #79

Again, your analysis is simply wrong and misguided LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #80

You miss the underlying points and are fixated only with your narrative. I AM talking about non deep Celerity Mar 2021 #82

All 112 Democrats who supported M4A won in 2020 wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #43

What a diverse country we have! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #44

All M4A candidates winning isn't "diverse" wellst0nev0ter Mar 2021 #45

This old canard has been debunked dozens of times. Vermont-style politicians... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #50

How many were in purple or red-leaning districts? My guess is very few if any, and "M4A" wasn't.... George II Mar 2021 #57

That is not really true...Biden did not run on the M4A and he won. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #65

A number of moderates lost because the far left "agenda" was used against them in their campaigns... George II Mar 2021 #59

Not funny that you're Not Acknowledging Cha Mar 2021 #69

There is nothing "moderate" about... Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #38

It violates the rules of reconciliation, and everyone knows it. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #51

Aw c'mon.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #52

First, #FactsMatter NurseJackie Mar 2021 #54

Almost everything you listed there Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #55

Lulz. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #56

You do realize that we lack the votes to over turn the filibuster in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #64

Not "tradition". Reconciliation bills fall under a set of rules, they're not customary bills... George II Mar 2021 #74

The republicans didn't need the filibuster to defeat adding the minimum wage to the bill.... George II Mar 2021 #60

Manchin said today he is open to getting rid of the filibuster for the voting bill...and other Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #53

Yes we did, and we maintained the majority last year with mostly moderate candidates.... George II Mar 2021 #58

8 years not decades Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #68

Check who represented Staten Island, the predominant section of the CURRENT 11th District... George II Mar 2021 #70

Yes a democrat won in 2008 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #71

Read my post again, it was republican from at least 1981 to 2011 (that's THIRTY years, "decades")... George II Mar 2021 #72

I read both your posts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #77

The point is that Staten Island is in a RED district that has been dominated by republicans.... George II Mar 2021 #78

I wasn't commenting on your point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #86

Manchin and Sinema are endangering the chances of other Democrats. Voters expect results. DTomlinson Mar 2021 #67

Yesterday voters got results, without skirting the rules of reconciliation. George II Mar 2021 #76

"the rules of reconciliation." DTomlinson Mar 2021 #90