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crimycarny

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8. But it's not just IT, it's many STEM programs

Wed Mar 10, 2021, 04:48 PM

Mar 2021

IT is not the only area where H1B abuses are happening, it's many of the STEM careers. And you can't have all managers and no workers.

"Companies will always try to replace you with either automation (see Cloud Computing) or importing cheap labor from overseas (H1B visas)"

The former--automation--is the inevitable evolution of improvements in efficiency (like manufacturing). The latter is abuse which can be helped or prevented by protections put in by our lawmakers.

Corporations will also try to pollute waters, skirt safety rules, etc. Just because they will always "try" to do this doesn't mean our lawmakers can't make laws to prevent this. That would be like saying 'Well, Corporations are always going to try and get around environmental protections so best not to live close to a plant."

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I take major issue with Joe Biden's work visa plan [View all] crimycarny Mar 2021 OP

Has to be changed by Congress treestar Mar 2021 #1

That's not the point crimycarny Mar 2021 #2

65000 of them per year under current law treestar Mar 2021 #31

Looks like Grassley and Durbin have a bipartisan bill to address this crimycarny Mar 2021 #13

I agree. The H1b system has a place, but it should not be used to hire cheaper labor. Laelth Mar 2021 #3

Charge the employer $100k a year per H1B. Problem solved. WarGamer Mar 2021 #26

They are required to pay prevailing wage treestar Mar 2021 #32

I appreciate the information that you provided. Laelth Mar 2021 #34

This is false in practice, the "prevailing" part is fudged consummately and not based on experience uponit7771 Mar 2021 #37

There's a fraud unit at USCIS treestar Mar 2021 #39

Then the current system is an after the fact enforcement vs per experience relative to confirmed ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #40

Not at all - to apply for an H-1B for an treestar Mar 2021 #42

Oh yeah--forgot to add the execs are getting a 7.5% across the board bonus crimycarny Mar 2021 #4

Did Trump ever address the widespread abuse of process by the big corporations? Beastly Boy Mar 2021 #5

Is Biden going to address the widespread abuse? crimycarny Mar 2021 #7

Corporations are going to look for cheaper workers regardless of the laws. Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #23

The recipients should not be recipients...it has happened to my family members...I am against Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #18

Simple solution in the spirit of the law... WarGamer Mar 2021 #19

One of the biggest lessons that I have learned since moving into IT back in 2000 is... Yavin4 Mar 2021 #6

But it's not just IT, it's many STEM programs crimycarny Mar 2021 #8

+ 1000 Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #20

"And you can't have all managers and no workers" Yavin4 Mar 2021 #28

Did President Biden rescind Trump's EO on this particular issue? Blue_true Mar 2021 #35

To an extent I agree, but they'd replace them too if they could. OnDoutside Mar 2021 #10

Thank the deity-of-your-choice I've made it to 58 y/o without doing any of that Silent3 Mar 2021 #15

60 minutes did an expose on the abuses--not just IT but other STEM careers crimycarny Mar 2021 #9

It's a problem in BioTech... WarGamer Mar 2021 #17

..👍🏼 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #38

It's not only IT, high tech in general has an ageism problem RainCaster Mar 2021 #11

Yes, totally agree crimycarny Mar 2021 #12

Unfortunately your comment proves that this will happen regardless of the laws Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #24

DURec leftstreet Mar 2021 #14

Agreed, 100% WarGamer Mar 2021 #16

Agree...we need jobs. And I am sick of what amounts to corporate welfare. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #21

It's absolutely corporate welfare. WarGamer Mar 2021 #25

I didn't see any less outsourcing under Trump Buckeyeblue Mar 2021 #22

The issue is not the H1B program itself drray23 Mar 2021 #27

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #41

If it can be made in China, it will be made in China dalton99a Mar 2021 #29

Sorry, imo this is a false flag. The REAL issue with IT is the refusal of workers to Unionize. Tommymac Mar 2021 #30

Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #33

Trump's rise happened for a reason, and we need to take heed. radius777 Mar 2021 #36