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zipplewrath

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15. Why?

Thu Mar 11, 2021, 05:56 PM

Mar 2021

Powerful people, especially men, think that nothing they do is wrong. I don't care what YOU know is wrong, they don't see it that way. Maybe some of the accusations are being embellished. I can accept that. But I also know that underlying it is the sense that it will be accepted because of the larger behavior.

Obama never had any of these problems because there was never any belief that he'd do it, much less get away with it. (Michelle woulda killed him). Cuomo on the other hand has the problem that it is believable, in the larger knowledge of who he is. Does that mean that every accusation is true? No. Franken's problems was that because of his former occupation and behavior as a comedian, the accusations could be seen as valid. Heck, they had photos. Does that mean he did anything wrong? No. Cuomo on the other hand should have known better and if 1/3 of it is anywhere close to "true", what the heck was he thinking?

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I know I'm beating this to death but I find it hard to believe that Cuomo... [View all] brush Mar 2021 OP

agree demtenjeep Mar 2021 #1

Yes, the governor was targeting these women station agent Mar 2021 #96

People with power do a lot of stupid stuff and get away with it. But I want an investigation. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #2

Did you ever see the movie "A Bronx Tale" ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2021 #4

No, how does it connect? Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #10

Several times. What's your point? brush Mar 2021 #11

The part where Robert DeNiro tells his son sometimes the little head thinks for the big head. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2021 #22

It's one of my favorites. brush Mar 2021 #25

Great performances by DeNiro, Pesce, Palminteri, and Lillo Brancato DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2021 #37

One of the best bar fight scenes ever. Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #68

THE BEST!! phandancer917 Mar 2021 #72

Chaz Palminteri played the hell out of that role. brush Mar 2021 #141

This DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2021 #74

LOL phandancer917 Mar 2021 #69

They are less likely to with the public eye and cameras treestar Mar 2021 #107

So much, it's starting to sound like it's a framing/rigging ... a Swift Boat of sorts. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2021 #3

Funny you say that, my first reaction when I heard this accusation was Bev54 Mar 2021 #39

Yeah, it's getting a bit on the weird side. If something happen, OK then, but some of this RKP5637 Mar 2021 #43

And Trump being town has what to do with this? brooklynite Mar 2021 #71

Oh well let's see, Unknown person accuses Cuomo Bev54 Mar 2021 #92

"Unknown person" brooklynite Mar 2021 #97

All the others have come forward and identified themselves, this person has not. Bev54 Mar 2021 #98

Not true... brooklynite Mar 2021 #99

Well that is not quite coming forward as the others did Bev54 Mar 2021 #100

If it is as bad as the reports, why isn't the accuser going for a payday? ahoysrcsm Mar 2021 #159

She didn't come forward; but the reporter knows her identity, and so does the supervisor pnwmom Mar 2021 #178

yes, one after another, and the last one is HEARSAY. nt Grasswire2 Mar 2021 #55

Oh, yeah? Five of his Democratic staffers decided to frame him? pnwmom Mar 2021 #59

I just read this article. Incredible. My comment is wrong, time for an in depth investigation. RKP5637 Mar 2021 #66

It is. Unfortunately, if someone only makes moves in private, pnwmom Mar 2021 #70

Thanks for helping me see what was going on! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2021 #77

Thanks for being willing to listen. nt pnwmom Mar 2021 #78

This is not even comparable to Tara reade. JohnSJ Mar 2021 #5

What if... wryter2000 Mar 2021 #6

Investigate please. That last one is hard to believe. brush Mar 2021 #14

Agreed! blueinredohio Mar 2021 #17

Agree ... sounds like a setup ... something doesnt seem right with this one...Project Veritas Again? ace3csusm Mar 2021 #56

Thank you. It's rather disheartening to hear so many posters here willing to dismiss this. Treefrog Mar 2021 #32

I'm curious what the division of these posts would be by gender. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #153

Clearly, posters are more interested in defending him wryter2000 Mar 2021 #190

Exactly. There was no witness to him sticking his hand up her blouse. pnwmom Mar 2021 #60

The number of accusers should never be used treestar Mar 2021 #110

Wryter2000 is not sitting on the jury wryter2000 Mar 2021 #189

But that's not proof of the next case treestar Mar 2021 #197

+1, DU wasn't even asking for Trump to just step down without an investigation into his rape ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #196

100% disagree, Bill Cosby admitted to drugging a person Cuomo has not. uponit7771 Mar 2021 #195

Agree. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #7

I agree with you and I hope there is a full investigation and he doesn't quit. Maraya1969 Mar 2021 #8

This is why people are afraid to speak against putin's puppet SheltieLover Mar 2021 #9

I honestly do not know what to think about this situation at this this time. riversedge Mar 2021 #12

It's not looking good, imo. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #13

I think Franken had as many or more even. We'll see what happens. brush Mar 2021 #16

Yes, Franken did, Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #19

The number is meaningless treestar Mar 2021 #108

Why? zipplewrath Mar 2021 #15

Investigate. After Cuomo's daily covid pressers, no one thought he'd do such things either. brush Mar 2021 #21

Actually zipplewrath Mar 2021 #29

That doesn't bother me. Most understood he got material from staff/experts. brush Mar 2021 #33

It was telling. zipplewrath Mar 2021 #103

This is the best post I've seen. Thank you and I wish we could recommend individual posts. Treefrog Mar 2021 #34

or the knee jerk reaction that "powerful men" always do treestar Mar 2021 #112

Power tends to corrupt zipplewrath Mar 2021 #193

Thank you. Ilsa Mar 2021 #87

You are generalizing and then just proved your treestar Mar 2021 #111

it's like a Roger Stone stillcool Mar 2021 #18

Dotard wants a state level pardon..if he can weaken the dem position in NY a gop gov is elected Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #26

Exactly this FakeNoose Mar 2021 #41

I will not judge at this time. Investigate. LakeArenal Mar 2021 #101

So these women, who are Democrats, are all lying? Is that right? Bribed by the rethugs? Treefrog Mar 2021 #35

"Women, who are Democrats" are not susceptible to corruption? oasis Mar 2021 #38

Did I say that? stillcool Mar 2021 #44

OMG just above you said there should treestar Mar 2021 #114

The groping allegation was reported to the Albany police by Cuomo's attorney lapucelle Mar 2021 #20

Wow.. that sounds like Cha Mar 2021 #48

The New York Times broke the story... lapucelle Mar 2021 #53

Why yes it did! & the alleged Cha Mar 2021 #57

As a woman.. Deuxcents Mar 2021 #23

The media's double standards are sickening. radius777 Mar 2021 #24

Yeah, suddenly there's a parade of accusers. brush Mar 2021 #30

And they are all Democrats. And women. So you think they are all liars? Wowza. Treefrog Mar 2021 #36

The Franken and Biden accusers were also "Dems", radius777 Mar 2021 #40

There weren't 5 current and former STAFFERS of Franken and Biden pnwmom Mar 2021 #80

Please. You said that, I didn't. I initiated the OP with a call for investigation... brush Mar 2021 #46

+1 ancianita Mar 2021 #88

Being a Democrat doesn't necessessarily mean they're Caesar's wife, either. Pathwalker Mar 2021 #50

Women kept silent about Bill Cosby for decades. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #84

+1 treestar Mar 2021 #109

I agree but I do think he behaved like an ass and many Democrats want him out JI7 Mar 2021 #27

+1, hence the claims from "staffers" could be some Nixie Mar 2021 #180

Many people on DU thought Cuomo should run doc03 Mar 2021 #28

See post #26... Thekaspervote Mar 2021 #31

It's not Republicans doing this. It's from Democrats. JI7 Mar 2021 #52

Cuomo is as qualified as Trump was. joetheman Mar 2021 #113

Unfortunately Roger Stone and others may be involved. pandr32 Mar 2021 #42

Don't force him to resign then. Kaleva Mar 2021 #45

Yes. It has to play out. brush Mar 2021 #47

I agree with you there. Kaleva Mar 2021 #79

brush, have you seen Post #20? Cha Mar 2021 #49

The woman could never prove it. How convenient for Cuomo. pnwmom Mar 2021 #62

Hi, Cha. Yes, I read it. She didn't want to report it. brush Mar 2021 #132

I know! And, Gov Cuomo's Cha Mar 2021 #134

+1. Similar pattern of nebulous sniffing/hugging charges - then boom a groping charge radius777 Mar 2021 #161

TY for that background. Cha Mar 2021 #192

Why now? allnews Mar 2021 #51

NOTE: that claim is hearsay. Told to media by someone else, not her. Grasswire2 Mar 2021 #54

+1 live love laugh Mar 2021 #137

I find it hard to believe that 5 Democratic women, all staffers of his, pnwmom Mar 2021 #58

You believe it already without an investigation? brush Mar 2021 #75

How will an investigation prove what Cuomo did in private with a staffer at his home? pnwmom Mar 2021 #81

All of the incidents weren't in private at his home. brush Mar 2021 #135

So it's all good as long as any incident happened in private with no witnesses? pnwmom Mar 2021 #136

You're being a tad unreasonable. You sound ready to convict... brush Mar 2021 #138

Exactly! caber09 Mar 2021 #140

With not one but 5 staffers reporting inappropriate behavior, I think he should resign. nt pnwmom Mar 2021 #142

Well, we know what you think, but an investigation is still in order... brush Mar 2021 #144

Come on we already discussed this... caber09 Mar 2021 #139

The fact that the woman went to work for him again proves nothing pnwmom Mar 2021 #143

So with all the press conferences cuomo.. caber09 Mar 2021 #145

What made her watch it? Her supervisor made her watch it, along with everyone else in the office. pnwmom Mar 2021 #148

So you are ok.. caber09 Mar 2021 #149

I don't think there will be any way to prove the allegations of these 5 staffers, pnwmom Mar 2021 #151

That is the photo that's not a different person... caber09 Mar 2021 #154

I said that the events with the 5 staffers were in private, and then you pointed out Boylan pnwmom Mar 2021 #164

Please do your research... caber09 Mar 2021 #166

Women who have been harassed often have confused feelings, to the point they discount pnwmom Mar 2021 #168

So why didn't she contact cuomo for an apology afterward? caber09 Mar 2021 #170

The fact that the woman went to work for him again proves nothing... caber09 Mar 2021 #146

You probably aren't a woman because you seem to have no idea how common pnwmom Mar 2021 #152

What does that have to do with wanting an investigation to play out? caber09 Mar 2021 #155

It has to do with her motivation, which you have questioned. pnwmom Mar 2021 #157

So you are saying that.. caber09 Mar 2021 #158

Yes. So you are saying that Anita Hill, the lawyer and accuser of Clarence Thomas, pnwmom Mar 2021 #160

Anita hill didn't leave and then caber09 Mar 2021 #163

By your logic, she should never have taken another job with him. No one forced her to. pnwmom Mar 2021 #165

I live in NY, I have been paying attention.. caber09 Mar 2021 #167

I think an investigation will drag on for months, if not years, and at the end pnwmom Mar 2021 #169

Great! ahoysrcsm Mar 2021 #171

So you are admitting that you don't care whether innocent or guilty?y caber09 Mar 2021 #172

I care that we win. And I think NY has a better candidate, Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul. pnwmom Mar 2021 #173

Do you know anything about Hochul? caber09 Mar 2021 #174

Hah, I had another DUer inform me both that she was too moderate and she'd never pnwmom Mar 2021 #175

I don't know what happened, because I was not there... Dan Mar 2021 #89

How many female staffers of his have to make allegations before you'll believe them? pnwmom Mar 2021 #94

I will await the outcome of the investigation. Dan Mar 2021 #104

The investigation is unlikely to prove anything, since none of the women staffers pnwmom Mar 2021 #105

Maybe it is a situation where the Voters have to decide. Dan Mar 2021 #115

Meh. He's already had 3 terms. I think the current Lt. Gov., running as an incumbent, pnwmom Mar 2021 #117

Nope.. caber09 Mar 2021 #119

If she is "very moderate" why would she have a special problem pnwmom Mar 2021 #121

She is not well known... caber09 Mar 2021 #122

Like a Governor with a history of fudging Covid facts and accusations of harassment pnwmom Mar 2021 #123

Accusations...that's why we investigate.. caber09 Mar 2021 #124

None of the women have said there were any witnesses to what he did. pnwmom Mar 2021 #125

Now you are lying about the women... caber09 Mar 2021 #126

I've been talking about the STAFFERS. Read back, and you'll see. pnwmom Mar 2021 #130

Fair enough.. caber09 Mar 2021 #131

How many more? That's why we investigate.. caber09 Mar 2021 #127

+1. Hochul is the female Al Gore. radius777 Mar 2021 #176

Well, not that familiar with NY politics, but Dan Mar 2021 #128

Trumps puppet zeldin from Long Island... caber09 Mar 2021 #129

Agree bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #61

I think I've been around a lot of boorish powerful men-- dawg day Mar 2021 #63

Here's my prediction: Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #64

If the accusations are true, reports should have been filed lodging a complaint. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #65

I heard this last one did tell her supervisor- dawg day Mar 2021 #73

The last ones was reported.. caber09 Mar 2021 #76

The staffer's supervisor DID file a report, after the staffer broke down in a meeting pnwmom Mar 2021 #82

She didn't file a report with the police... caber09 Mar 2021 #85

If the police and military have a white nationalist problem so do the newsrooms Ponietz Mar 2021 #67

Meanwhile, I have a list of Republican governors here who banished all mask mandates... Hekate Mar 2021 #83

Three words: Clinton. Cigar. Dress. TygrBright Mar 2021 #86

I'm always good with due process. As you say, if Cuomo was THAT dumb in this day and PatrickforB Mar 2021 #90

I find it hard to believe that people here think this is some sort of conspiracy directed by Trump progressoid Mar 2021 #91

Me, too. I think the R's would LOVE a muddied-up Cuomo to face in 2022, pnwmom Mar 2021 #156

Yes, please investigate. I'm tired of Dems being Franken'ed. nt iluvtennis Mar 2021 #93

It is very suspicious coming at this time. katmondoo Mar 2021 #95

Agree judesedit Mar 2021 #102

Yes, investigate treestar Mar 2021 #106

Every time I hear about a case like this, I think "Al Franken." BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #116

Al Franken and Cuomo have little in common other than they're both Dems. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #118

Again let the investigation play out.. caber09 Mar 2021 #120

I caught a hide last week for opining about Cuomo. WarGamer Mar 2021 #133

I Smell a Rat Deep State Witch Mar 2021 #147

Could it be a payback for the pardon that stopped him from going to jail? brush Mar 2021 #150

This is a coordinated attack. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #162

If it's coming from the R's, it's incredibly stupid. pnwmom Mar 2021 #177

No she wouldn't caber09 Mar 2021 #179

Cuomo's "star power" is considerably diminished. If Kathy Hochul became Governor now, pnwmom Mar 2021 #181

She won't be the nominee. radius777 Mar 2021 #183

She'll have a significant edge over any Dem if she becomes Governor soon. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #184

She doesn't understand what's happening here.. caber09 Mar 2021 #186

Look Al Franken had to be pushed out in order to win against Roy Moore krawhitham Mar 2021 #182

You're right. Thanks for the reminder. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #185

This is a problem maxrandb Mar 2021 #188

Agreed, and well said. brush Mar 2021 #194

I feel like Cuomo is being ganged up on hamsterjill Mar 2021 #187

Yeah. You'd think he'd be smarter than that, however MineralMan Mar 2021 #191