Obama vs Ron Paul : both hold positions anathema to liberals.

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64. Ron Paul is not a progressive.

Spazito posted this earlier and I wanted to continue with his idea.

>>A "what" statement: I support the legalization of marijuana
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>>A "why" statement: I support the legalization of marijuana because I believe drug companies
>>should have exclusive rights to any and all drugs, they should be able to have those rights
>>without interference by regulatory bodies dictating health, safety, pricing limitations.

One addition to your last "why": I support companies that choose that they do not want drug-addicted workforces and decide to fire any employees that might appear to be stoners. Why bother with drug tests? Just can them for long hair.

A "what" statement: I support an end to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

A "why" statement: I support the end to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan because I believe that the federal government should not actively intervene in favor of American economic interests overseas. However I feel that if American companies operating abroad are being held at the point of a gun by totalitarian governments that they have a right to defend themselves against such abuses, up to and including armed self-defense.

A "what" statement: I support an end to the federal government spying on citizens.

A "why" statement: I support the end to the federal government spying on citizens because it's not reasonable to use those very citizen's tax dollars in order to spy on them. However I feel that it is perfectly okay for private corporations to do exactly the same sort of surveillance for their own ends and they should be allowed to do numerous acts of espionage that are currently illegal under US law.

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We can go on and on and on. Do you people grasp already that Ron Paul is not a progressive, he's a libertarian. Progressives identify abuses of power that hurt people's lives and want to stop those abuses. Libertarians couldn't care less. Their only real concern is who gets to abuse that power. Is it the federal government (libertarians say no) or private interests (libertarians applaud)?

Like I've said several times before. Libertarians use very similar language to progressives on a lot of issues, but they are very rarely saying what progressives are saying. They use these words very differently than you and I.

I don't particularly care if you don't want to waste your time understanding libertarianism. I encourage you not to. It's a gigantic waste of time. But for chrissake please don't defend libertarians if you don't grasp what they're saying. If you do grasp it and still manage not to puke, have a nice day thank you very much.