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speak easy

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Mon Mar 22, 2021, 05:06 PM Mar 2021

538's Walk of Shame continues. [View all]

One of these polls is not like the others
One of these pollsters does not belong

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

538's eccentric decision to include, and continue to include a rogue pollster, Rasmussen Reports in its aggregates, is beyond a joke, it is a locus of shame.

Rasmussen has a infamous reputation for manipulating numbers, presumably within the Margin of Error, for partisan purposes. As 538 themselves have said, after being extreme outliers in favor of the GOP during general elections, their polls 'magically' fall into line with reputable pollsters on election eve.

The most charitable thing one can say about Rasmussen is that they have a heavy methodological and sampling bias in favor of the GOP. A less charitable conclusion would be, they gleefully cook the books for prominence on RW media, to butress funding.

538's pretensions to adjusting Rasmussen's numbers are a fig leaf in a storm. No amount of stat-'splaining can lend a decent sheen to preposterous results. Rasmussen have reported Biden +0 (49/49) twice now. In Bill Clinton's words - one way or another, 'that takes a lot of brass'.

But the problem is not whether particular results are subject to ridicule, it is the ongoing corruption. 538 presents its adjusted weighted average of polls as an indication of how the president's approval is tracking over time. But arbitrarily playing around with the numbers, within the MoE, fatally compromises a times series - And that is what Rasmussen Reports does. They do it during General Elections, and they are doing it now.

Today, Rasmussen's numbers suggest that the American Rescue Plan was unpopular with voters, damaging the president's approval.

Biden - Job approval

March 10-14 +6 (52/46)
March 11-15 +4 (51/47)
March 15-17 +4 (51/47)
March 17-21 +0 (49/49)

Horseshit.

It's time for 538 to bite the bullet. Rasmussen Reports do not belong in any survey of respectable pollsters, let alone in an aggregate featured on the front page, every day.

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538's Walk of Shame continues. [View all] speak easy Mar 2021 OP
And that poll is rated differently... brooklynite Mar 2021 #1
So you say, and say, speak easy Mar 2021 #2
I'm not defending them; I'm acknowledging them... brooklynite Mar 2021 #10
"I'm better hearing opinions that disagree with my own" speak easy Mar 2021 #12
Yes, if fact. brooklynite Mar 2021 #14
How are you going with understanding the 2/3rds of Republicans speak easy Mar 2021 #18
Don't Agree ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #7
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #21
LOL, Back ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #22
Parody? Nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #23
It would seem to explain why * numbers never changed from 40% (of who/what) for 4 years Hestia Mar 2021 #24
Its not rated differently enough and that's the bigger issue uponit7771 Mar 2021 #9
outliers are always important to a data set... WarGamer Mar 2021 #3
When 538.com has to Apply a 10 point Adjustment-maybe they should just drop it Stallion Mar 2021 #4
Rassmussen Is Land Lines Into Assisted Living Institutions DanieRains Mar 2021 #5
I am one of the yougov people Tree Lady Mar 2021 #6
FUCKIN WOW !! Only a 3 point adjustment on the upside from rAssMussen !? Just fuckin wow!!! uponit7771 Mar 2021 #8
A ten point adjustment over all. speak easy Mar 2021 #11
So, you want them to "Unskew The Polls"...? regnaD kciN Mar 2021 #13
No. speak easy Mar 2021 #16
Pollsters have been misrepresenting what Democratic voters want Hortensis Mar 2021 #15
Rasmussen's final 2020 Election poll Locutusofborg Mar 2021 #17
Did you read the OP? speak easy Mar 2021 #19
Data is never the problem. Yavin4 Mar 2021 #20
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