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Spider Jerusalem

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71. Pretty much anyone who is aware of the history of race in the United States?

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:18 AM

Mar 2021

Whiteness, upon a time, did not include Palatine Germans (Ben Franklin referred to them as 'swarthy'), Irish (go look at a Thomas Nast cartoon from Harper's Weekly; Irish were depicted as bestial, simian, and barely human), Italians, Jews, etc.

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Whiteness Is a Pandemic [View all] Mr. Scorpio Mar 2021 OP

And let's not forget all the mental illness and immaturity it is linked to ck4829 Mar 2021 #1

Please regard this other incident: Mr. Scorpio Mar 2021 #2

When justice fails to act the people must. cayugafalls Mar 2021 #3

Glad to see this survived an alert. K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #4

K&R Solly Mack Mar 2021 #5

Yes it is. ismnotwasm Mar 2021 #6

Imo, intensely racist. Moving to "white supremacy" as a cover Hortensis Mar 2021 #7

Whiteness is a social structure ismnotwasm Mar 2021 #8

Not in black-dominant nations. In ours, our social structure is white-dominant Hortensis Mar 2021 #13

If only we had some grand plan misanthrope Mar 2021 #20

Sigh ismnotwasm Mar 2021 #27

Countdown to the first post about 'white fragility.' Treefrog Mar 2021 #36

And yet, the vast majority of white people have no idea what it means to be white in America... Mr. Scorpio Mar 2021 #9

Dismantling white supremacy will mainly be the work of white people, as they are the ones who WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #10

Yes, white supremacy is a killer. The article goes well beyond that. Well over the line. Goodheart Mar 2021 #26

How? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #32

I totally agree. EndlessWire Mar 2021 #21

Bigotry is a two-way street. Racism, which is systemic, has an oppressor and an oppressed, and so is WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #33

It certainly is. EndlessWire Mar 2021 #38

Would it be easier to engage with if it said "White supremacy is a public health crisis"? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #39

That's probably better. Dr. Strange Mar 2021 #57

We in the U.S. live in a white supremacy, so it's actually the default, and being anti-white- WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #58

I work with MANY S/SE Asian Engineers, PH.D's and MD's... WarGamer Mar 2021 #96

Cool allegation. LanternWaste Mar 2021 #101

Well maybe killing us all will help? treestar Mar 2021 #11

Identifying, acknowledging and dismantling white supremacy would definitely help. How could it not? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #12

Maybe we should all do the socially responsible thing and commit suicide. Crunchy Frog Mar 2021 #29

Conflating a type of person with a disease doesn't lead to good places. Nexus2 Mar 2021 #76

I don't have a comment one way or the other when it comes to the OP AZProgressive Mar 2021 #107

Whiteness does not equate to white supremacy. milestogo Mar 2021 #14

Whiteness is a function of white supremacy, and every white person benefits from white supremacy. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #16

BS! EndlessWire Mar 2021 #22

Truth hurts. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #37

Whiteness as understood in the USA is a social construct that only exists because of white supremacy Spider Jerusalem Mar 2021 #18

Oh yeah? Whose understanding would that be? Goodheart Mar 2021 #25

Pretty much anyone who is aware of the history of race in the United States? Spider Jerusalem Mar 2021 #71

I understand the history of race. What I don't approve of is deliberately offensive language. Goodheart Mar 2021 #77

Your no fun at parties. Rustyeye77 Mar 2021 #78

If you understand the history of race, then you understand that there's a difference between WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #81

Ok... is it ok with you Rustyeye77 Mar 2021 #87

Why wouldn't it be? They are two different things, as are "being white" and "whiteness." WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #88

How is it you think you will be using these terms? /nt tonedevil Mar 2021 #89

I honestly don't know. Rustyeye77 Mar 2021 #91

I was pretty sure you were throwing out words... tonedevil Mar 2021 #92

Thank you. Rustyeye77 Mar 2021 #93

Well said. n/t EndlessWire Mar 2021 #105

White Europeans genocided most Native Americans. roamer65 Mar 2021 #15

K & R mountain grammy Mar 2021 #17

You know what really melts ice caps? misanthrope Mar 2021 #19

And this isn't against the TOS? n/t EndlessWire Mar 2021 #23

Nope /nt tonedevil Mar 2021 #50

Why is this crap allowed to remain on this board? Goodheart Mar 2021 #24

CRAP👎nt Raine Mar 2021 #28

Whiteness is a phenotype. nt Crunchy Frog Mar 2021 #30

Excellent and accurate misanthrope Mar 2021 #45

Damon Young is NOT, I repeat, NOT, saying kill whitey. NOT saying kill white people at all. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #31

Thanks for this heavy lifting. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #34

I wasn't going to, to be honest. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #35

I hear you. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #40

That's some impressive spin right there. Goodheart Mar 2021 #41

Aren't you adorable. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #42

Yes... and correct. Goodheart Mar 2021 #46

Oh, yeah. People who dictate to black people what is and isn't acceptable in discussions of race Solly Mack Mar 2021 #47

Honest question... Rustyeye77 Mar 2021 #53

He isn't dictating. He is expressing his thoughts on racism. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #55

Thank you for your response. eom Rustyeye77 Mar 2021 #56

What leads you to allege anyone is dictating anything? LanternWaste Mar 2021 #64

Nope. /nt tonedevil Mar 2021 #51

Bingo. Mr. Scorpio Mar 2021 #43

From reading the thread one would get the idea that while the government was enacting racist laws Solly Mack Mar 2021 #48

A lucid nuanced post electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #67

+10000000000000000 Celerity Mar 2021 #75

Stupid racist garbage Bonx Mar 2021 #44

Thats lovely..."Whiteness is a public health crisis." Rustyeye77 Mar 2021 #49

Exactly Raine Mar 2021 #66

There's this book out called "Dying of Whiteness" Mr. Scorpio Mar 2021 #69

I"ll never accept any dishonest criticisms of my 1979 snowflake religious candy white ass desires. hunter Mar 2021 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #54

What is this racist crap thread? Calculating Mar 2021 #59

Thank you Rustyeye77 Mar 2021 #60

Who else is responsible for... tonedevil Mar 2021 #62

Which is...not what the article says, but okay. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #61

Well, that's not really the point. Mr. Scorpio Mar 2021 #68

Good God the replies... ibegurpard Mar 2021 #63

It's harming white people as well. Mr. Scorpio Mar 2021 #70

This. White Supremacy's effects are still all around. electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #72

+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2021 #74

Hot air about it seems to be. gulliver Mar 2021 #65

I blame ships. betsuni Mar 2021 #73

Mr. Young's primary goal here was to shock with language rather than to make a point. Goodheart Mar 2021 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Donkees Mar 2021 #80

Tossing in the trash Sugarcoated Mar 2021 #82

And there's the real pity, isn't it? Goodheart Mar 2021 #83

The difference BGBD Mar 2021 #85

Yes, exactly nt Raine Mar 2021 #100

There are BGBD Mar 2021 #84

An article from The Root... tonedevil Mar 2021 #86

. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #90

Funny BGBD Mar 2021 #94

Just one word? Which one? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #95

Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #97

White supremacy relies on the concept of whiteness, which is something that goes beyond skin color. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #98

It is BGBD Mar 2021 #102

"Whiteness" is not people. It's a concept used to describe the fluidity of racialized definitions. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #103

Then maybe you BGBD Mar 2021 #104

A word that is acceptable to Wypipo? /nt tonedevil Mar 2021 #106

Or you could be open to learning about critical race theory. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #109

The Chinese have more coal power plants than the rest of the world combined. Calista241 Mar 2021 #99

It is a pandemic LeftInTX Mar 2021 #108

List of most racist countries (India is number 1) Mosby Mar 2021 #110

Interesting ... Thanks for the link. nt Raine Mar 2021 #111