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Bondor

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15. A question of constitutional law

Wed Mar 24, 2021, 08:06 AM

Mar 2021

Is it possible to permit free speech regarding matters of opinion and judgment - such as how a given law might play out in future or who deserves what - while constraining speech that verifiably gets facts wrong?

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You know, simply put, there needs to be an adverse consequence for politicians who [View all] Atticus Mar 2021 OP

I will defer Karma13612 Mar 2021 #1

Limits Roy Rolling Mar 2021 #2

Setting additional limits on free speech is wnylib Mar 2021 #12

A quiz show to ID faulty reasoning or conclusions, etc. What a great idea. Trust_Reality Mar 2021 #20

?? wnylib Mar 2021 #44

"it's not "Free speech" azureblue Mar 2021 #34

I agree with you about the qualities wnylib Mar 2021 #53

Since when does free speech allow for outright lies to mislead the populace Bev54 Mar 2021 #37

Since December 15, 1791 CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #49

If teachers do that, they can be fired. wnylib Mar 2021 #50

No, not "fire in a crowded theater" again. That's a myth. CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #52

Love It! Roy Rolling Mar 2021 #56

Bring back DownriverDem Mar 2021 #22

One that's not just for broadcast! That's the only way it would be effective. CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #51

My post from another thread. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #24

No limits on free speech...I can only imagine how the GOP would subvert this...there is little we Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #35

I fully agree about the need to create wnylib Mar 2021 #54

I wish class action lawsuits could be brought against those who outright lie. CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #47

"free speech" for most of them means they have a right to lie. nt joetheman Mar 2021 #3

My post from another thread dickthegrouch Mar 2021 #55

Compounding the problem... Trueblue Texan Mar 2021 #4

Very intellectually tantalizing parallelism you've made there Trueblue Texan. jaxexpat Mar 2021 #16

Boy howdy are you right. CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #17

And there is no reasoning with that, 2Gingersnaps Mar 2021 #27

Exactly! CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #42

I know several people like this... Snackshack Mar 2021 #40

Well said! CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #43

Believing can be a really big problem. Trust_Reality Mar 2021 #23

Covid response in a nutshell. 2Gingersnaps Mar 2021 #32

And denying Covid's existence even when it KPN Mar 2021 #41

The right wing media conditioning of the public set this situation up decades ago. ancianita Mar 2021 #5

I think Americans need a perceptual adjustment HariSeldon Mar 2021 #6

conservatives only survive with a heavy dose of lies and their base demands those lies LymphocyteLover Mar 2021 #7

the huge problem is conservative media that allows Republicans to be accountability-free LymphocyteLover Mar 2021 #8

Money. Greed. Capitalism. BarbD Mar 2021 #9

We need to be as tough on anyone who lies to the American people Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #10

Make it part of the oath. Snackshack Mar 2021 #11

Has the Fourth Estate The Wizard Mar 2021 #14

Nice play on words. Snackshack Mar 2021 #19

In many ways it has become a fifth column. sop Mar 2021 #29

This should be required reading The Wizard Mar 2021 #13

A question of constitutional law Bondor Mar 2021 #15

The media has a lot to do with the lack of accountability of the liars Escurumbele Mar 2021 #18

Will you accept some official body that has the power to determine what the "truth" is? hack89 Mar 2021 #21

Apparently there is one source so feared for digging out the truth and publishing........ usaf-vet Mar 2021 #33

For most, truth is truth, not "truth". It seems to me that our entire judicial system depends on Atticus Mar 2021 #45

We have a pretty "free market" approach to elections. malthaussen Mar 2021 #25

Seems to me that is their big cry baby tantrum about "cancel culture." 2Gingersnaps Mar 2021 #26

Laugh Track? rickyhall Mar 2021 #28

Funny you should write that as my blood pressure is still high after reading GemDigger Mar 2021 #30

Rachel Maddow has become the top cable news show by focusing on what they do, not what they say. Trust_Reality Mar 2021 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Tbear Mar 2021 #36

The lack of shame has slowly grown worse... Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2021 #38

Agree, we prosecute other forms of fraud - Ponzi, broken contracts - why not lies and hoaxes? bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #39

Democratic messaging needs to be effective enough that the vast majority... CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #46

Probably not. It took five years to simply censure McCarthy... First Speaker Mar 2021 #48