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Kaleva

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101. The biggest is using the term 'assault rifle"
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 06:06 AM
Mar 2021

Last edited Sat Mar 27, 2021, 06:40 AM - Edit history (1)

"What is an "assault rifle," he asked sarcastically."

he goes on to say:

"An assault rifle is the weapon of choice of mass murderers who want to slay as many defenseless men, women, and children as possible."

Not true at all. Assault rifles are heavily regulated by the National Firearms Act and since the registry was closed in 1986, assault rifles are hard to get as there are only so many of them in the country and thus are extremely expensive for the average citizen, costing around $20,000 or more, and there are only a relative few gun dealers in the country licensed to sell them and that's only when a current owner decides to sell. Because it has been illegal to import assault rifles into the country since 1986 and to manufacture assault rifles in this country for sale to civilians since 1986.

" the civilian model can be legally modified to fire fully automatic 100 round drum magazines."

Not true unless one is able to purchase a registered sear pin manufactured prior to 1986 and these alone can cost $20 grand. Plus to have it, there is paperwork to do, a tax to pay and the background check can take months to complete and that has to be done prior to getting the sear pin.

"It fires the exact same high velocity round as my military issued rifle, designed to tumble upon impact with human flesh causing the maximum tissue damage and lethality possible. It is weapons like the AR (ArmarLite Rifle), which was designed specifically for military infantryman to be able to carry more ammunition into war. It is any weapon that has the capability of firing multiple .223 or 5.56 "

The .223 Remington and 5.56mm NATO are not exactly the same. While one can safely fire a .223 Remington in a rifle chambered for the 5.56mm NATO, the reverse is not advised as the 5.56mm NATO is a more powerful round and could damage the gun chambered for the .223 Remington and possibly injure the shooter. While dozens of militaries around the world use the 5.56mm NATO, I'm unaware of any that use the .223 Remington. An indication that they are not the same.

"An assault rifle is a weapon of war,"

I think most everyone would agree with that. Most, and possibly all, armies in the world are armed with assault rifles. But then he goes on to say this:

"slightly modified for civilian use that has the capability of putting enough firepower in the hands of physically and mentally weak people to give them a capability they otherwise would not have; the ability to kill and wound dozens or even hundreds of people in a few minutes."

Author is confusing assault rifles with the so-called assault weapon. He clearly doesn't know the difference and it's a very important one.

"They are the preferred weapon of mass shooters who use them more frequently and with more lethal efficiency, every year since the assault weapons ban, staunchly opposed by the NRA, was allowed to lapse by a Republican President and Congress on September 13th, 2004."

The AWB had nothing to do with assault rifles which are regulated by the National Firearms Act passed back in 1934 and is still in effect.

"When, inevitably, some gun collector snarkily asks me to tell them what an "assault rifle" is, I like to respond with this:"

Author shouldn't respond at all as he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.





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K & R for most accurate description of Assault Rifle in weapons' history Budi Mar 2021 #1
Thanks for the repost... Karadeniz Mar 2021 #2
KnR Hekate Mar 2021 #3
And AR stands for "Assault rifle" right? I never knew that until yesterday Maraya1969 Mar 2021 #4
Or did they mean this? Whatthe_Firetruck Mar 2021 #7
No. Aristus Mar 2021 #12
If you don't know the name of every part of my SIG Sauer StClone Mar 2021 #31
Exactly. Aristus Mar 2021 #32
K & R. Thanks for posting. Arkansas Granny Mar 2021 #5
I have no patience for those who try... 3catwoman3 Mar 2021 #6
This. Tommymac Mar 2021 #25
It's impossible to create good law without a knowledge of the details Kaleva Mar 2021 #52
Any time one tries to explain why a given proposal would be impossible to implement, Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #61
I think many mean well but they are doomed to failure. Kaleva Mar 2021 #64
It looks like 20+ posts in this thread gunsplaining DU. Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #66
Maybe but i do think that people ought to know at least the basics. Kaleva Mar 2021 #69
So why don't you tell us what those "factual errors" are? ShazzieB Mar 2021 #82
Here's one. Straw Man Mar 2021 #87
The biggest is using the term 'assault rifle" Kaleva Mar 2021 #101
KR& Bookmarked. This might be the best explanation ever. n/t ms liberty Mar 2021 #8
They're certainly not used for hunting. SergeStorms Mar 2021 #9
Google hunting with an AR-15. Nt EX500rider Mar 2021 #76
Yeah, right. SergeStorms Mar 2021 #79
If you can mount a scope to it and it fires a powerful enough round you can hunt with any gun. EX500rider Mar 2021 #80
You still don't seem to grasp my point. SergeStorms Mar 2021 #81
A rifle is not a "weapon of mass destruction" by definition. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #85
Here's an ad from 1964, before the Army had adopted the M16 as its service rifle. Straw Man Mar 2021 #89
People hunt with lots of rifles that were designed for military use initially: EX500rider Mar 2021 #98
K; R CatWoman Mar 2021 #10
I think more people are shot/killed in mass shootings that involve semi-auto handguns than rifles. SYFROYH Mar 2021 #11
Mass killings are almost exclusively AR 15 type rifles. Not hand guns. boston bean Mar 2021 #13
It depends on how you aggregate the data. SYFROYH Mar 2021 #22
What is your point? ShazzieB Mar 2021 #84
I made the point I needed to make, but I'll answer your questions. SYFROYH Mar 2021 #86
And you would be highly wrong. paleotn Mar 2021 #14
The VA tech shooter killed 32 with two handguns.. nt hack89 Mar 2021 #27
Point? paleotn Mar 2021 #38
If AR-15s magically disappeared there would still be mass shootings. hack89 Mar 2021 #47
Complete BS. paleotn Mar 2021 #67
VA tech was the second worse mass shooting in American history - 32 dead hack89 Mar 2021 #72
"Cheap, steel manhood." 3catwoman3 Mar 2021 #30
No. AverageOldGuy Mar 2021 #15
Mass shootings are only a very small part of overall gun deaths. Straw Man Mar 2021 #91
Apparently 41 people shot to death a day in separate locations is not tragic enough for some reason. EX500rider Mar 2021 #95
Let's not forget the asswipes who claim they use them for hunting. Ka-Dinh Oy Mar 2021 #16
You would be wrong hack89 Mar 2021 #29
Lol, expected you! Nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #54
Here's your chance to actually refute me hack89 Mar 2021 #57
Works for you! Nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #70
If anyone ever asks me why gun control is a smoking wreck hack89 Mar 2021 #71
Nice try! Nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #73
They're quite popular for hunting, actually. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #34
Why are you posting gun porn here? Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #36
I posted the pictures because they're germane to the discussion at hand. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #39
a .308 BGBD Mar 2021 #96
Right. Straw Man Mar 2021 #94
I stand corrected. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #97
lol, photos??? Nf USALiberal Mar 2021 #56
Ask me how I know you've never seen a deer or hog killed with a 5.56 round out of an AR. SYFROYH Mar 2021 #75
You are right, I have never seen.one of those used. Ka-Dinh Oy Mar 2021 #78
I have a veteran friend who bigtime Mar 2021 #17
These weapons literally rip bodies apart. BarbD Mar 2021 #18
Especially an AR15 style 12 gauge shotgun Kaleva Mar 2021 #59
He might have become aroused if you included the origin of the term. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #19
K&R MustLoveBeagles Mar 2021 #20
Let me repeat it here. hunter Mar 2021 #21
And insanely obscene. nt Tommymac Mar 2021 #26
Thank you for reposting this, garybeck. K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Mar 2021 #23
K & R . . . Journeyman Mar 2021 #24
Corollary to Godwin's Law... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #28
BRILLIANT! simply brilliant ... should be re-posted a 1,000,000 times. n/t MFGsunny Mar 2021 #33
Assault Rifles . . . JackHughes Mar 2021 #35
Assault rifles are what the military use. Kaleva Mar 2021 #62
That thread was 'gunswarmed'. Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #37
That must be your shorthand for "A small fraction of the posts in the thread disagree with me". Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #40
No I meant the linked thread was gunswarmed by NRA apologists. Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #41
What fraction of the posters in each thread are pro-gun rights? Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #42
Didn't count. Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #43
I did. 3 posters out of.34. Does that consitute a "swarm"? Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #45
One poster spouting NRA talking points Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #48
What a silly defintion. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #53
I don't trust NRA supporters on anything frankly. Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #63
That's nice. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #65
I count at least 3, many of them posting multiple times. ShazzieB Mar 2021 #88
Versus at least 3 dozen other posters in favor of gun control, many of them posting multiple times. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #46
Interesting to look back BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #44
And the obsession that many of those in the gun control camp have with the genitalia of gun owners Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #50
Boo hoo BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #51
You didn't disagree, I would note. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #55
I couldn't help but note you didn't specifically disagree either BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #58
Why would I disagree with my own assertion regarding how ubiquitous such posts are whenever Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #60
What does your name mean??? Nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #74
It's a (deservedly) obscure superhero series from the 1960's. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #77
The label "assault rifle" is an accepted term that's been around for a long time Kaleva Mar 2021 #49
Assault rifles have been strictly regulated since they first appeared in WWII Kaleva Mar 2021 #68
Police call them patrol rifles. Mosby Mar 2021 #83
How you define what you're trying to ban matters. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #92
Call them what you will ... Straw Man Mar 2021 #93
We can define them by their characteristics. Mosby Mar 2021 #99
OK. Straw Man Mar 2021 #100
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