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Klaralven

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70. How are they going to track every mile people drive?

Reply to frazzled (Reply #57)

Sat Mar 27, 2021, 06:31 AM

Mar 2021

How would the taxes be collected?

How would it be enforced in a way that people couldn't cheat and game the system?

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Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg says taxing drivers by the mile "shows a lot of promise"... [View all] demmiblue Mar 2021 OP

How would 5his work? Dream Girl Mar 2021 #1

Dashboard tracker frazzled Mar 2021 #6

It is already done in states like Florida and Massachusetts (I have friends and business there). Blue_true Mar 2021 #32

Only if you live in areas with toll roads csziggy Mar 2021 #48

Maybe toll roads will get some of the red people around you voting against Blue_true Mar 2021 #56

Well, Leon County is a very blue area in the midst of a sea csziggy Mar 2021 #58

Don't you mean "East" of Tallahassee? Blue_true Mar 2021 #62

No - one of the toll roads being talked about would closely follow the US 19 route csziggy Mar 2021 #67

But not every state is the same crimycarny Mar 2021 #52

The current system is grossly unfair to poor urban people. Blue_true Mar 2021 #59

"In states like..." crimycarny Mar 2021 #64

Any state that charge a gas tax is hitting urban residents harder in most Blue_true Mar 2021 #66

Cheaper than gas and car usage whistler162 Mar 2021 #88

I imagine it would replace the gas tax with a mileage tax krispos42 Mar 2021 #13

Thanks for the explanation. I never thought about the move to electric cars and lower gas tax Dream Girl Mar 2021 #28

No problem. The issue was first discusses here when hybrids became popular krispos42 Mar 2021 #31

I like your idea about making the rate per mile weight dependent. Blue_true Mar 2021 #34

I don't think we even have to go that far. krispos42 Mar 2021 #36

Weight stations can be built directly in the road at toll stations. Blue_true Mar 2021 #41

This presumes tolls. Boo, hiss, throw tomatoes. krispos42 Mar 2021 #43

They are a fact of life in some parts of Florida. Blue_true Mar 2021 #46

Don't see it for cars and small work vehicles with known base weights. Hortensis Mar 2021 #75

License plate fees are structured by weight Red Mountain Mar 2021 #55

Lots of little guys for some years will be in an older-car hard place, Hortensis Mar 2021 #76

Yes, and thanks for the spitballing. Tackling big problems with Hortensis Mar 2021 #74

You enter at a station, get a pass, the pass is checked at your exit station. Blue_true Mar 2021 #30

I wonder if he is aware that a large number Horse with no Name Mar 2021 #2

When my son was on palliative care ChazII Mar 2021 #33

In Florida, anyone that uses certain roads pay a mileage fee. Blue_true Mar 2021 #35

So currently, they pay more in gasoline taxes than those with shorter commutes Mariana Mar 2021 #44

Hmm. With some jobs driving is built into the work itself, inseparable Hortensis Mar 2021 #77

So would not spending so much on fucking things that kill people Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #3

Love Pete but I don't agree with this crimycarny Mar 2021 #4

We already pay a tax per gallon of fuel questionseverything Mar 2021 #7

Florida and other states already charge a mileage fee on some roads. Blue_true Mar 2021 #37

Florida takes pride in being a regressive state questionseverything Mar 2021 #45

I agree with you about my home state being a primitive assed place in a lot of regards. Blue_true Mar 2021 #49

And the gas tax hits those with less fuel-efficient cars and trucks the most, promoting efficiency. TheBlackAdder Mar 2021 #39

Well, it already does krispos42 Mar 2021 #14

You really think the gas tax will go away? MichMan Mar 2021 #63

Well, at some point there will be so few gas burners they'll stop bothering krispos42 Mar 2021 #65

Will Buttigieg be Transportation director then? They are discussing doing this now. MichMan Mar 2021 #89

Sure. Without adjustments to ease the burden, EVERYTHING hurts Hortensis Mar 2021 #82

Gonna need something as gas usage falls...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #5

I would likely be a pretty decent net loser under that system dsc Mar 2021 #8

Realistically, we'll need to tax cars by the mile as electric cars become more common. hunter Mar 2021 #9

Keep the gas tax, but at a lower rate. krispos42 Mar 2021 #15

If the tax is linked to smart highways with electric charging stations, it's a win/win for everyone. Beastly Boy Mar 2021 #10

Yes, punishing rural people is a great idea. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #11

actually since they are net voters for the other party dsc Mar 2021 #18

Punishing people based on voting patterns is also a shitty idea. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #25

why someone has to pay taxes dsc Mar 2021 #29

The 1 percent need to fund the bulk of everything questionseverything Mar 2021 #42

It's just a use tax that Republicans love. Grins Mar 2021 #20

That's...not what equity means. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #27

Big Government tracking your travel?! Yeah. Right. Captain Zero Mar 2021 #22

As a rural person, I don't think I drive as much ... dawg Mar 2021 #86

I love you Pete, Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #12

He's the Secretary of Transportion. Estate taxes are out of his bailiwick. krispos42 Mar 2021 #16

He's the Secretary of Transportation and it's exactly under his authority. Grins Mar 2021 #21

I was responding to Mary from SC krispos42 Mar 2021 #23

I know Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #68

Just install more EZ Pass wickets and license plate readers. Klaralven Mar 2021 #17

Because it's not just about tollways or even highways frazzled Mar 2021 #57

How are they going to track every mile people drive? Klaralven Mar 2021 #70

Boo IbogaProject Mar 2021 #19

How do I explain this to poor families already choosing between food in the house or gas to get it? Deb Mar 2021 #24

I hope we're not thinking we need as much "road infrastructure" as pre-COVID gulliver Mar 2021 #26

This is fine for electrics. Gas, not so much. SoCal Roomba Mar 2021 #38

Use taxes are regressive. Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #40

Here in the Silicon Valley Central Coast, it would punish the poor CoopersDad Mar 2021 #47

I'm open to his ideas hurl Mar 2021 #50

That would not be good policy. At all PrinceHakeem Mar 2021 #51

I really don''t like the idea of the government requiring a gps in cars ripcord Mar 2021 #53

This is a regressive tax...just like gasoline tax...get rid of it and fund the roads with Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #54

One of the proposals a while back was to tax tires csziggy Mar 2021 #60

I don't get it most of my driving is to and from jobs I work for myself as a service plumber Tribetime Mar 2021 #61

People that do ubers I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2021 #69

Not a good idea. Too many people need to drive multiple times a day to multiple jobs. Vinca Mar 2021 #71

Politically, this idea and utterance of it fucking sucks rotten eggs. boston bean Mar 2021 #72

It would have BGBD Mar 2021 #73

It's regressive to poor rural people who live in large states. Hugin Mar 2021 #78

Strongly disagree, it's a bad idea. n/t area51 Mar 2021 #79

He's probably right, but this will be as popular with the masses as a root canal. marmar Mar 2021 #80

Really hurt people like me who have to drive . leftyladyfrommo Mar 2021 #81

This shouldn't be repeated out loud. Go back to the drawing board ecstatic Mar 2021 #83

Its going to hurt people who commute far Tree Lady Mar 2021 #84

I think this is a bad idea. dawg Mar 2021 #85

Dumb idea. Tax the fucking rich, not the poor and the working class. Autumn Mar 2021 #87