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8. Mitt also screwed up nuclear weapons 101
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:43 PM
Oct 2012

Realize that this is from last month but it bears repeating, especially in light of the upcoming foreign police debate.

"If I were Iran, if I were Iran -- a crazed fanatic, I'd say let's get a little fissile material to Hezbollah, have them carry it to Chicago or some other place, and then if anything goes wrong, or America starts acting up, we'll just say, "Guess what? Unless you stand down, why, we're going to let off a dirty bomb." I mean this is where we have -- where America could be held up and blackmailed by Iran, by the mullahs, by crazy people. So we really don't have any option but to keep Iran from having a nuclear weapon." --Mitt Romney

Governor Mitt Romney's description, caught on video, of what he considered the real nuclear threat from Iran has further undermined his national security credentials, showing a fundamental misunderstanding of nuclear threats. Iran's nuclear program has nothing to do with dirty bombs. Terrorists would not use uranium -- from Iran or anywhere else -- in a dirty bomb. It is unclear if Gov. Romney was just riffing, or if his advisors had fed him this line of attack. But it is dead wrong.

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The key here is that dirty bombs do not use fissile material. They do not use enriched uranium or plutonium -- the fissile material that Gov. Romney cites. The reason is simple: These materials, perhaps counter-intuitively, are not radioactive enough. Their radioactive emissions don't travel far and are blocked by simple barriers, including skin and clothing. A dirty bomb would use small amounts of highly radioactive materials such as cesium or cobalt, not uranium. Even specks of these elements send out deadly gamma rays that penetrate walls and bodies causing immediate injury.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/09/18/dirty_bomb_muddy_thinking

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Wasn't that what the Stuxnet virus did? Spun their centrifuges faster to damage them? Electric Monk Oct 2012 #1
Yes, evidently. I only know that because I read the comments under the pic where I K Gardner Oct 2012 #4
Funny that you mentioned Stuxnet....second time I read about it today. Evoman Oct 2012 #14
It varied the spin rate to fuck up the output quality to unusable levels. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #25
Suxtnet Sgent Oct 2012 #30
I'm not convinced by "a centrifuge needs to spin quickly to make fission occur" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #2
ok.. you went so far into the weeds it scared me. I have no idea if this is a K Gardner Oct 2012 #5
It's definitely wrong caraher Oct 2012 #13
Sorry guys.. I just found it on FB - didn't know any nuclear experts to consult before I posted it K Gardner Oct 2012 #27
You're right, it's wrong... Science Geek Oct 2012 #38
+1 wtmusic Oct 2012 #10
I'm sure that was intentional, actually. Chiyo-chichi Oct 2012 #23
Ah, thanks for background. wtmusic Oct 2012 #37
A very cogent and accurate observation. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #11
Interesting topic mick063 Oct 2012 #16
Exactly. In fact, it reads like something someone wrote to deliberately sound like they didnt know Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #17
Why is spinning the centrifuges faster ridiculous? I would think it would hasten the separation Flatulo Oct 2012 #29
They are always employed at the limits of their mechanical design in this circumstance... Science Geek Oct 2012 #39
Then I suppose he could have meant that they've procured newer, faster machines. nm Flatulo Oct 2012 #40
It's a funny article defacto7 Oct 2012 #34
Unfortunately, a lot of "nuclear professionals" are incompetent. nt bananas Oct 2012 #42
Amen N/T Throckmorton Oct 2012 #45
And rLyan's new sneakers from China make him run faster! HopeHoops Oct 2012 #3
And leap tall buildings in a single bound! Buns_of_Fire Oct 2012 #6
No, that's the magic undies he borrowed from rMoney. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #7
Mitt also screwed up nuclear weapons 101 pokerfan Oct 2012 #8
Thanks for this post brush Oct 2012 #9
It's like someone claiming to be as smart as Einstein... originalpckelly Oct 2012 #20
Don't repost this caraher Oct 2012 #12
Yes, this is lolworthy. originalpckelly Oct 2012 #18
Exactly! Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #19
Makes them sound smart. originalpckelly Oct 2012 #21
Its so off target i have to believe it is designed to dupe people into sharing it Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #22
Do you think they could be that sophisticated? left on green only Oct 2012 #31
It sounds Rovian to me. n/t TexasProgresive Oct 2012 #32
I agree caraher Oct 2012 #44
Lol. originalpckelly Oct 2012 #15
Ryan was the only one doing the fast spinning. He spun around on positions faster than an 4lbs Oct 2012 #24
Ryans mind.. somewhere on vacation..perhaps its ...'gone fission' Vietnameravet Oct 2012 #26
Centerfuges spinning faster? Wonks can criticize this post, but they are missing the point. keopeli Oct 2012 #28
Just for clarification... defacto7 Oct 2012 #35
No, I don't think you've got our point muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #41
No wonder Joe Caretha Oct 2012 #33
I believe they have nuclear careers, painting radium dials on watches. dimbear Oct 2012 #36
Ouch! I hope they were able to get their asses surgically reattached. jmondine Oct 2012 #43
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