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In reply to the discussion: Ryan Goes Nuclear on National TV. Gets Fact-Checked by Nuclear Physicist. (FB Photo/Meme) [View all]pokerfan
(27,677 posts)8. Mitt also screwed up nuclear weapons 101
Realize that this is from last month but it bears repeating, especially in light of the upcoming foreign police debate.
"If I were Iran, if I were Iran -- a crazed fanatic, I'd say let's get a little fissile material to Hezbollah, have them carry it to Chicago or some other place, and then if anything goes wrong, or America starts acting up, we'll just say, "Guess what? Unless you stand down, why, we're going to let off a dirty bomb." I mean this is where we have -- where America could be held up and blackmailed by Iran, by the mullahs, by crazy people. So we really don't have any option but to keep Iran from having a nuclear weapon." --Mitt Romney
Governor Mitt Romney's description, caught on video, of what he considered the real nuclear threat from Iran has further undermined his national security credentials, showing a fundamental misunderstanding of nuclear threats. Iran's nuclear program has nothing to do with dirty bombs. Terrorists would not use uranium -- from Iran or anywhere else -- in a dirty bomb. It is unclear if Gov. Romney was just riffing, or if his advisors had fed him this line of attack. But it is dead wrong.
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The key here is that dirty bombs do not use fissile material. They do not use enriched uranium or plutonium -- the fissile material that Gov. Romney cites. The reason is simple: These materials, perhaps counter-intuitively, are not radioactive enough. Their radioactive emissions don't travel far and are blocked by simple barriers, including skin and clothing. A dirty bomb would use small amounts of highly radioactive materials such as cesium or cobalt, not uranium. Even specks of these elements send out deadly gamma rays that penetrate walls and bodies causing immediate injury.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/09/18/dirty_bomb_muddy_thinking
Governor Mitt Romney's description, caught on video, of what he considered the real nuclear threat from Iran has further undermined his national security credentials, showing a fundamental misunderstanding of nuclear threats. Iran's nuclear program has nothing to do with dirty bombs. Terrorists would not use uranium -- from Iran or anywhere else -- in a dirty bomb. It is unclear if Gov. Romney was just riffing, or if his advisors had fed him this line of attack. But it is dead wrong.
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The key here is that dirty bombs do not use fissile material. They do not use enriched uranium or plutonium -- the fissile material that Gov. Romney cites. The reason is simple: These materials, perhaps counter-intuitively, are not radioactive enough. Their radioactive emissions don't travel far and are blocked by simple barriers, including skin and clothing. A dirty bomb would use small amounts of highly radioactive materials such as cesium or cobalt, not uranium. Even specks of these elements send out deadly gamma rays that penetrate walls and bodies causing immediate injury.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/09/18/dirty_bomb_muddy_thinking
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Ryan Goes Nuclear on National TV. Gets Fact-Checked by Nuclear Physicist. (FB Photo/Meme) [View all]
K Gardner
Oct 2012
OP
Wasn't that what the Stuxnet virus did? Spun their centrifuges faster to damage them?
Electric Monk
Oct 2012
#1
Yes, evidently. I only know that because I read the comments under the pic where I
K Gardner
Oct 2012
#4
It varied the spin rate to fuck up the output quality to unusable levels.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2012
#25
I'm not convinced by "a centrifuge needs to spin quickly to make fission occur"
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2012
#2
Sorry guys.. I just found it on FB - didn't know any nuclear experts to consult before I posted it
K Gardner
Oct 2012
#27
Exactly. In fact, it reads like something someone wrote to deliberately sound like they didnt know
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#17
Why is spinning the centrifuges faster ridiculous? I would think it would hasten the separation
Flatulo
Oct 2012
#29
They are always employed at the limits of their mechanical design in this circumstance...
Science Geek
Oct 2012
#39
Then I suppose he could have meant that they've procured newer, faster machines. nm
Flatulo
Oct 2012
#40
Its so off target i have to believe it is designed to dupe people into sharing it
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#22
Ryan was the only one doing the fast spinning. He spun around on positions faster than an
4lbs
Oct 2012
#24