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ReasonableToo

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54. A nurse shared words of wisdom & what would happen if...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:12 AM
Oct 2012

We lost a pregnancy at 36 weeks. It was a stillbirth rather than a miscarriage. There was some drama with ultrasounds that revealed that the umbilical cord was not working properly and one of his kidney's was not functioning. We had an appointment to see a neonatal urologist to figure out what we'd have to do once the baby was born but he did not make it past 36 weeks.

I was on bed-rest for the last few weeks but also had a 1 yr old to take care of. On the fateful day, the person who was going to help me out with my 1 yr old did not show up so I was up on my feet more than I should have been. When I got my 1 yr old settled for a morning nap, I noticed the baby wasn't active. At the hospital, the doctor could not find a heartbeat.

First, for all the people who are dealing with miscarriage or still birth, I want to share something the nurse at the hospital warned us of. She said that some couples pull away from each other as if they have to deal with this on their own and that assigning blame on yourself or the other person is not helpful. Armed with the warnings, we made sure that we leaned on each other rather than away from each other. After lots of tears and hugs we made it though the grieving time. And, when the day finally does comes that you don't think of the child you lost, don't feel guilty about that. Let yourself heal.

I am vehemently pro-choice because I think that if abortion were illegal - even with limited exceptions, MANY things will happen in addition to the return of "back alley" abortions and women dying of horrible complications:

In honor of Sesame Street, do you remember the cartoon with the girl holding a balloon with a cat nearby when she ask "What would happen if I popped this balloon?" Here's what will happen if we pop the Rove v Wade balloon...

1.) The rich and well-connected will still have access to safe and discrete abortions.

2.) Some women who experience miscarriages and stillbirths will be subject to scrutiny. Imagine the miscreant Akin talking about a "legitimate miscarriage." Imagine prosecutors determining if there's enough evidence to press charges against a grieving woman. I often wonder if my situation would be suspect. Would someone second guess my decision to take care of my 1 yr old and press charges for murder because I didn't follow doctor's orders for bed rest?

3.) Some women who are raped will be accused of falsifying testimony in order to have an abortion.

4.) Some women who get pregnant through consensual sex will falsely accuse their partner of rape in order to have an abortion.

5.) More children will be born into loveless homes where they are neglected and abused.

6.) More children will be found cut up and stuffed in freezers or buried in shallow graves because their parent(s) (or grandparents or other caregiver) are not equipped to take care of them.

7.) The court system will be overwhelmed with contested cases and the clock will run out for many women that "qualify" for an abortion.

8.) Men will be widowers when they lose their wives to things like ectopic pregnancies (I bet Akin doesn't even know what that is) or treatable cancer. (If no medical exception.)

9.) Rapists' DNA will be passed on along (more than it already is) with all the mental illnesses that led to them being rapists in the first place. (Evolution is supposed to work against this but what do we expect if the lawmakers don't believe in evolution.)

10.) Worth repeating...The rich and well-connected will continue to have access to safe and discrete abortions.

I really think that the way to reduce abortions is to have insurance for all with contraception covered and a great prenatal care program; have a good low cost adoption system; have financial support for single women and low income families that provides a healthy and safe environment to raise a child and have community programs that supports kids and teens so that they are not left on their own while their parents are working.

I really am so SICK of the simultaneous positions that every fetus is sacred AND once a child is born into a less than ideal situation, that people should take care of themselves without being "moochers" or the mother should have not gotten pregnant in the first place if she couldn't take care of the kid.

I think Biden addressed this well in the debate. He wouldn't impose his judgement on others.


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Yes...I used reason and science... Diego_Native 2012 Oct 2012 #1
I've BTDT 4 times laundry_queen Oct 2012 #2
Two kids, two ultrasounds gollygee Oct 2012 #3
And it's still pissing me off! Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #4
Wow. Thank you. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #5
Thank you, CaliforniaPeggy! Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #14
A wonderful heartfelt post..... Thank you for sharing. Tennessee Gal Oct 2012 #6
I think it is trisomy-18 that they kept telling us was "incompatible with life." Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #7
Conner is nine years old and a joy to all of us. Tennessee Gal Oct 2012 #8
You are one proud grandma! n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #9
Did it look like a bean??? nt barnabas63 Oct 2012 #10
Actually in the early stages they are vaguely kidney-bean shaped. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #11
congrats.... barnabas63 Oct 2012 #12
It's OK. The bean thing is pretty mockable. n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #13
Another DUer suggested Ryan meant a "human bean." CrispyQ Oct 2012 #41
Or perhaps Mr. Bean. n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #45
I deal with my loss by knowing it wasn't a full cooked person. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #15
It is an insult. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #16
Very well said, but I expect that from you. Bettie Oct 2012 #17
I am so sorry you had to go through all that. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #18
You're right, it is SO much more common than we think Bettie Oct 2012 #22
My grandmother passed away on September 11, 2000. But I think Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #24
That is so horrible of your MIL, and so typical of a hypocritical anti-choicer. LittlestStar Oct 2012 #52
I also hate how the adbots keep putting ads for maternity clothes on this thread. n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #19
I had a miscarriage in 1993 Robyn66 Oct 2012 #20
You were brave to try again. I am glad it worked out for you. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #21
I hear you on that Bettie Oct 2012 #23
People use the "lucky" thing about cancer too...which I eventually had to stop getting mad about Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #25
HA I had breast cancer in 2008 and heard that one too! Robyn66 Oct 2012 #26
Oh. Yeah. Because you don't really NEED that part of your body! Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #27
Yes and people who were suprized at how long it took to recover from the mastectomy Robyn66 Oct 2012 #35
@#$@%!!!!! Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #39
Then the drama about reconstruction Robyn66 Oct 2012 #49
Oh, vain my ass. It's a part of your body. Losing any part of your body is horrible. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #55
Du rec. Nt xchrom Oct 2012 #28
2 children from 5 pregnancies ibleedblue Oct 2012 #29
That is a heartbreaking story. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #32
So sorry for your losses Bettie Oct 2012 #50
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #30
CalPeggy said what I was thinking, so I will just kick this for you Lucinda Oct 2012 #31
Wonderful OP, Plaid Adder. K&R. ceile Oct 2012 #33
Kicking for all the stories people have told in the replies. n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #34
Pregnancies whether planned or unplanned, wanted or unwanted... LynneSin Oct 2012 #36
My Dear Plaid. annabanana Oct 2012 #37
Thanks, annabanana. n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #46
Beautifully said. Tree-Hugger Oct 2012 #38
I am sorry for your loss, Treehugger... Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #40
What a horrible ordeal. Texasgal Oct 2012 #48
So sorry for your loss Bettie Oct 2012 #51
Go Plaidder Go! KamaAina Oct 2012 #42
Thank you, KamaAina! n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #44
They support a potential life instead the living breathing woman standing in front of them. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #43
Well, you know, women do things. Things the right wing doesn't always like. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #47
This is exactly why grave stones have "birth dates" and "death dates". Conceiving does not make you LittlestStar Oct 2012 #53
A nurse shared words of wisdom & what would happen if... ReasonableToo Oct 2012 #54
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