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In reply to the discussion: I'm 54 and I could SCREAM when I hear "anyone over 55 doesn't need to worry about Social Security" [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)124. The future of Social Security is complicated. ...
Which is why I try to elected intelligent people to represent me in Congress.
I will agree that it is unlikely that the Great Recession will last for 20 more years. One scary thought is that the report you linked to stated:
Compared to last years report, recovery from the recent recession takes 1 year longer, with the economy returning to its full employment level in 2019.
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/tr/2012/IV_B_LRest.html#219007
That would mean that even if Obama was reelected the recession would outlast his entire second term! The Republicans might then take over running the nation in 2016 with control of the White House and Congress and claim the full recovery in 2019 to their efforts. If this scenario happens we could see 8 to 12 years of Republicans in the White House. I was hoping for a full recovery in Obama's second term.
I still feel we need to insist that those we elect to office work NOW to preserve this very important program for the future as suggested in this report from 2009.
Social Security: What Would Happen If the
Trust Funds Ran Out?
Christine Scott
Specialist in Social Policy
August 20, 2009
Social Security solvency could be restored by cutting Social Securitys spending, increasing its
income, or some combination of the two. Over the long range (i.e., over the next 75 years), the
Social Security trustees estimate that the trust funds have a shortfall of $4.3 trillion in present
value terms, or 1.7% of taxable payroll. The sooner Congress acts to fill this gap, the smaller the
changes to Social Security need to be, because earlier changes could be spread to a larger number
of workers and beneficiaries over a longer period of time. If Congress waits until the moment of
insolvency to act, the trust funds annual deficits could be eliminated with benefit cuts of about
22% in 2041 that will gradually rise to about 25% by 2082. Congress could also eliminate annual
deficits by raising the Social Security payroll tax rate from 12.40% to 15.94% in 2041, then
gradually increasing it to 16.60% by 2082. To maintain annual balance after 2082, larger benefit
reductions or tax increases would be required.
Prompt action to restore Social Security solvency would be advantageous. The trustees project
that the combined trust funds will begin to run annual cash-flow deficits in 2017, requiring the
redemption of government bonds accumulated in earlier years. The Disability Insurance (DI) trust
fund is already running cash-flow deficits. Cash-flow deficits do not affect Social Security
directly, but the redemption of the trust fund bonds puts pressure on the overall federal budget,
which is in deficit. Earlier changes would allow workers and beneficiaries time to adjust their
retirement plans. Finally, if Congress were to act today, the benefit cuts or tax increases necessary
to restore solvency until 2082 would be about half as large as those needed if Congress waited
until the trust funds became insolvent to act. This report will be updated as events warrant.
http://aging.senate.gov/crs/ss1.pdf
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I'm 54 and I could SCREAM when I hear "anyone over 55 doesn't need to worry about Social Security" [View all]
Matariki
Oct 2012
OP
Thanks! I don't know why we don't push this idea more. It has traction.
TrollBuster9090
Oct 2012
#90
Exactly!!! "they know that that trillion-dollar pile of money is just sitting there and they know
RKP5637
Oct 2012
#59
You are absolutely right. That pile of money is too much of a tempation for them
Matariki
Oct 2012
#20
Got that right. This 55 stuff is all BS. They're hiding the rest of the deck.
MichiganVote
Oct 2012
#104
Before I got covered my health insurance was going to ~$7,000 per year and that was with something
RKP5637
Oct 2012
#16
Not gonna happen. No one is "grandfathered" into anything and people need to be made
brewens
Oct 2012
#7
It will be a mass revolt and that's their game plan. Damn I hate these F'en people like
RKP5637
Oct 2012
#18
Yep, America to Romney and his ilk is a corporation waiting to be plundered. n/t
RKP5637
Oct 2012
#60
And a by-product of their privatizing game plan is for us to be divided over it
We People
Oct 2012
#110
Same here and I'm over 55, and I care about everyone. Damn, I hate some of these F'en
RKP5637
Oct 2012
#10
I'm 61 and more than a little concerned that their definition of "get what they were promised"...
OldDem2012
Oct 2012
#11
Don't be ticked off by that term. It IS the very definition of an entitlement.
Gormy Cuss
Oct 2012
#155
Forced to pay into it. Not like it was an option. No opting out for anyone. And now the pukes
SammyWinstonJack
Oct 2012
#130
If you've paid into it why wouldn't you want it there when you are ready to retire.
socialaidem
Oct 2012
#24
Me too...I turned 54 this past summer. Ryan says if he has his way I'm screwed.
bowens43
Oct 2012
#28
54 = born 1958, 20 y/o in 1978, been paying extra into SS for the last 29 years -- why should those
HiPointDem
Oct 2012
#29
+1. they expect people not to remember and not to have understood in the first place.
HiPointDem
Oct 2012
#50
If R&R cause it to be insolvent like experts predict none of us get what we paid into. VOTE DEM
Booster
Oct 2012
#31
Well, I'm fifty-six and I was standing where you are two years ago when they started
1monster
Oct 2012
#38
I'm wondering if they didn't say "born after 1955" bc when they said that those people were 55 yo.
freedom fighter jh
Oct 2012
#154
It boggles my mind that anyone in our age group trusts their retirement to Mitt & Co.
eallen
Oct 2012
#45
That's because you are a "younger worker". Never mind that 63 used to be retirement age. n/t
silvershadow
Oct 2012
#46
I'm 62 and I could scream also, to think we could sell out you guys because I got mine shows ....
marble falls
Oct 2012
#47
I'm 63 (soon to be 64---hats off to Paul McCartney) and it makes me furious, too.
Grammy23
Oct 2012
#57
Spin, thats the intermediate cost scenario, the low cost scenario says SS is good thru 2090
FogerRox
Oct 2012
#121
Not far behind you my friend and absolutely furious as well. What's worse is that both sides are
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2012
#120
I'm 53 and I'm sick of being dismessed as unimportant. WTF we all paid into SS.
we can do it
Oct 2012
#133
yeah. i've been working almost 40 years cause i started as a bus-boy at 14 years old!
Mothdust
Oct 2012
#140