And Then There Were Three: Third Grand Jury Refuser Goes to Prison

[graham4anything]

105. this is the system of the founding fathers

Change the law if the law is not liked
but don't complain about the law that is on the books by calling it names it isn't

the law is the law

And our founding fathers were not the nicest people, nor followers of their own decrees either

wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who wrote the laws that said "all are created equal"
but kept slaves(who were not considered equal nor full persons, ) and abused his women slaves without their consent to what really you know, was rape. Being that they had no choice in the matter.)

If everyone who is granted immunity then reneges on their deal and says they won't testify,
the court system would be no more.

btw-the guy in the Barry Bonds steroid case did the same thing. As have many others.
Bonds never got jail time, but just put his old picture next to his look now, and well, it is not natural. Just ask Mark McGwire's body.

And I can name you 100 other examples of simliar things.

If the laws are not liked, change them.


Once granted immunity(which protects what the 5th amendment is for doesn't it?, she can't be jailed for anything she might say, she is immune to prosecution on it), well then, she is wasting taxpayer and court time and money
If you are going to do the crime, do the time as the cliche goes.

and let's keep it focused on the law, the USA and not Germany decades ago. NO, Hitler did not start out by refusing to testify in the grand jury. Hitler was elected by the people to serve the people.
(OH MY GOD JIM...TO SERVE MAN...IT'S A COOKBOOK(lol from the twilight zone)


Whereas, this is the law of the land, so your comparison would be Founding Fathers=Hitler, then I take it???(NO I am not saying you said that, but your analogy then becomes that, something I doubt you meant to say, correct?)

And bringing Hitler into the conversation -it is inappropriate, and that is another country, years ago. A more apt would be a thread on the Ron Paul literature and his backers, and the John Birch Society and Jorg Haider in Austria's words and how similiar the Paul's are to Haider, and how Haider and Hitler have common ideas and all(before Haider died of course).
But it really is over the top.
And just distracts this minor topic by putting in a major topic.

IMHO,I am not trying to be provocative, just trying to say how the two have nothing to do with each other.

This is OUR law. Not to follow the law is anarchy. Pure and simple. Anarchy is NOT democracy.