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Hortensis

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45. Don't turn reasonable statements into nonsense. She's not even a blip
Sun Apr 4, 2021, 10:44 AM
Apr 2021

on the radar warning of the giant forces ranged against democracy on the right.

In fact, all the anti-Democratic and socialist fringe movements together are a problem only as their hostility against the powerful progressive Democratic Party aids the enormous forces for white Christian nationalism and fascism on the right.

In these anxious, frightening times, however, their usual combined 10% or so was able to draw a few more percentages of support, and worse to undermine the beliefs of many who didn't vote, to throw the nation to the Republicans in 2016. Even the less hostile ones knew that was possible and did it anyway. Those who continue don't regard destroying their own claimed agenda as a mistake or feel even the slightest remorse at what they've brought on everyone.

Crazy, very dangerous times.

Our children and their children will ask us, ‘What did you do? What did you say?’ For some, this vote may be hard. But we have a mission and a mandate to be on the right side of history.” ~ John Lewis

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Then by all means they should return the money to her. Autumn Apr 2021 #1
They probably will... brooklynite Apr 2021 #10
Damage? Autumn Apr 2021 #12
The appeal of AOC among progressives doesn't apply to voters in moderate swing districts. brooklynite Apr 2021 #17
Most of it is GOP propaganda AZProgressive Apr 2021 #20
And moderates don't appeal to Progressives in blue states. Yet we still support the moderates Autumn Apr 2021 #21
The progressives in solid Blue districts don't pick up seats from Republicans... brooklynite Apr 2021 #22
+1 onenote Apr 2021 #29
Obvious. We already picked up seats from Republicans so we are Blue. Autumn Apr 2021 #42
That is untrue...name an election that a progressive Democrat won from a GOP...mostly, they Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #50
Who made that claim? I agreed with post #22. Autumn Apr 2021 #53
Warnock and Ossoff wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #94
It appears that the support is only supposed to go one way Bettie Apr 2021 #52
You would think that would be as obvious as the nose on ones's face. Autumn Apr 2021 #55
Luckily, Biden is willing to Bettie Apr 2021 #56
Yes, he has been amazing. I don't think it really suprised me that he would move Autumn Apr 2021 #58
Couldn't have said it better myself. nt Carlitos Brigante Apr 2021 #59
There are more moderate states and without them, we can't win a majority. They gave us Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #43
I wonder why Ocasio-Cortez didn't check with the campaigns before she contributed . . . Journeyman Apr 2021 #2
The articles states the DCCC staff gave her staff the wire transfer info in error Celerity Apr 2021 #41
Thanks. I'm unable to access the entire article . . . Journeyman Apr 2021 #46
She is the sharpest knife in the drawer no matter what her detractors says. She studies the issues joetheman Apr 2021 #57
Sounds a little suspect, as GOP candidates get scumbags to donate to them and that's not an issue. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #3
Bottom Line.. We Want to Cha Apr 2021 #4
But the point of the OP is that Bettie Apr 2021 #28
Like I said.. We Need to Keep Cha Apr 2021 #62
So. AOC is not on the team?I could have sworn she was a Democrat. Autumn Apr 2021 #71
We lose against anti democracy candidates it wont have anything to do with "effort" just bad .... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #34
Yes Messaging is Key.. Cha Apr 2021 #63
+1, I think that's the one thing dems are missing that kGQP has is a well intrenched ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #64
This is what happened AZProgressive Apr 2021 #5
TY empedocles Apr 2021 #8
She is one of the sharpest politicians I have ever seen. mjvpi Apr 2021 #6
It was the DCCC's 'mistake' (I use that term lightly) Celerity Apr 2021 #15
Whatever malaise Apr 2021 #7
Yahoo is still around? pwb Apr 2021 #9
it is fronting for Politico, the eternal purveyor of 'Dems in disarray' bollocks Celerity Apr 2021 #14
+1, kGQP supports treason against America but AOC is a problem. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #38
How dare she support fellow Democrats! Dem4Life1102 Apr 2021 #11
Yawn, another Politico 'Dems in disarray' hit piece, designed to shit-stir Celerity Apr 2021 #13
This. Bonus points because it feeds the opinions of AOC's Democratic detractors. . n/t ms liberty Apr 2021 #16
Still butt hurt that right wing loon from CNBC didn't unseat her. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #44
That only matters when it isn't about AOC. Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #31
I'm not a super AOC-stan Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #18
Abolish ICE and defund the police Wanderlust988 Apr 2021 #24
Abolish ICE was for the 2018 midterms AZProgressive Apr 2021 #25
I can't breathe. Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #32
Being against democracy is ***MORE*** out of the mainstream and that's what the kGQP is ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #35
One of the big problems with democrats. triron Apr 2021 #19
She carries the socialist tag. Mom of Baltimike Apr 2021 #23
Too bad too many voters don't think "nationalism" is a deal breaker BradAllison Apr 2021 #26
Agree completely but sometimes we deserve it. Mom of Baltimike Apr 2021 #39
I know, right? Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #33
The kGQP carries the anti America and terrorist supporter tag and if dems can't root that message uponit7771 Apr 2021 #36
She knows her name is polarizing. She could have donated to Hortensis Apr 2021 #27
There's nothing more polarizing than kGQP terrorist attacks against America & anti democracy laws uponit7771 Apr 2021 #37
Don't turn reasonable statements into nonsense. She's not even a blip Hortensis Apr 2021 #45
Her name is not more polarizing than what I named, period. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #48
Did you read the article? The DCCC staff gave her staffers the wire transfer info in error. Celerity Apr 2021 #40
Yes, I did. Ocasio-Cortez's staff requested that info. Hortensis Apr 2021 #51
You are misunderstanding the issue AZProgressive Apr 2021 #65
Everyone's aware of the HUGE problems in policing. Hortensis Apr 2021 #67
Each individual race is different AZProgressive Apr 2021 #68
Certainly can't argue with each race is different. Hortensis Apr 2021 #69
Where did you find out that she needed the info to donate directly so it would show her name Autumn Apr 2021 #78
Her name only appears on a donor list if SHE donates directly. Hortensis Apr 2021 #80
So it seems RW bullshit isn't just for RWingers anymore. Autumn Apr 2021 #81
The woman in red on the right represents a common conservative viewpoint, Hortensis Apr 2021 #83
Common conservative viewpoint? No such thing. Conservatives are all trashy, racist Autumn Apr 2021 #85
And that's about how that 1/2ish of humanity Hortensis Apr 2021 #88
Difference is, those conservatives are horrible people. The 1/2ish of humanity that almost all Dems Autumn Apr 2021 #95
The conservative viewpoint is wrong AZProgressive Apr 2021 #89
Lol, of course they're wrong! They don't know it. Hortensis Apr 2021 #92
It does seem like a Conservative to not listen to science AZProgressive Apr 2021 #87
The 12 years comes from a study AZProgressive Apr 2021 #86
We all know the various warnings, of course. Hortensis Apr 2021 #90
She is quoting the UN AZProgressive Apr 2021 #91
I think it's best not to bring up specific reasons why this might Hortensis Apr 2021 #93
You could read the article Arazi Apr 2021 #49
One could almost imagine there are highly connected people here who have inside information as Autumn Apr 2021 #79
I eagerly await any proof AOC made sure her name would appear on their donor lists. Autumn Apr 2021 #66
FEC filings have everyone's donor lists above $200. George II Apr 2021 #70
AOC make that rule? Autumn Apr 2021 #72
She's aware of that rule.... George II Apr 2021 #73
Did she make it? I'm thinking no. The DCCC staff gave her staff the wire transfer info in error Autumn Apr 2021 #77
Autumn, what "rule" are you talking about? The FEC, not the DCCC, establishes and oversees.... George II Apr 2021 #82
Already blaming their poor campaigning skills on someone else seems we need to get past this uponit7771 Apr 2021 #30
tying opponent to Trump is key to swing district elections Johonny Apr 2021 #47
Why is she raising money for her campaign and then giving it to other campaigns? George II Apr 2021 #54
How dare she. /nt tonedevil Apr 2021 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Apr 2021 #61
What do you think is the answer to your question, George? nt. Mariana Apr 2021 #74
Mariana, I wouldn't have asked the question if I knew the answer, don't you think? George II Apr 2021 #75
I doubt that any Texas candidates will ask AOC to campaign in Texas LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #76
I tend to agree. BannonsLiver Apr 2021 #84
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