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In reply to the discussion: I think a lot of young folks are being hoodwinked by Ron Paul... [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)I even hoped for a combined ticket with Paul and Kucinich or Gravel. Unfortunately, there were other elements to the Paul people that indicated they were just GOP with a different brand.
And at the very start, the Tea Party was imagined to be a Progressive movement. But they all fell back into their Reaganesque roots. Paul himself is incompetent and his supporters are a cult.
They can get quite violent despite their R(EVOL)ution slogan, with love spelled backwards. They behave as a mob and Paul doesn't lead them. They don't find anything wrong with the Selection in 2000, because they have been taught to disrespect legal process as a liberal thing. They despise Democrats and progressives, calling them statists, government supporters.
It's easy to destroy, backbreakingly hard to build. They don't think things through. Paul would install a firmly theocratic, fascist economy in the USA.
Libertarianism is straight GOP. Tbey desire the liberty and freedom of not paying for irresponsible behavior toward others who cannot resist. They regard the government as evil because of regulation that may slow their getting rich, as well as those regulations that affect how they can treat their fellow citizens.
Most of the people in America don't fit their standard of being citizens, though. That includes women. I got in some debates with their kin, the taaparty and Consittution party. They want all amendment repealed. Women don't need education, or the right to vote, they need to stay home, make babies and clean. No kidding.
Their solution of letting the churches and families take care anyone they run over, is a failure and it is the default GOP position. If you don't have either church or family to take care of you in trouble, then die. It must have been something you did.
They don't address the bigger issues, since most of them are profiting from it. I"ve read the libertarian forums where they equate human life with dollars. Where they call for those who are disabled or born disabled to be euthanized, as they don't pay taxes. In their revered free market, those people are simply not viable commodities anymore. So leave.
All of this is just under the surface of their 'revolution.' They regard themselves as victims of liberals, welfare queens, government and the 'NWO.'
Tthey have pushed 'personhood' laws in all the states. Except at the moment the person leaves the womb, they are a commodity to be used and discarded. They don't think about the intrinsic evil they are turning a blind eye to.
In the end, they are fascists seeking a patrician social order with church and big bosses dominating everyone since the commons would be gone. It's working, too.
Since they see themselves as victims, you can't reason with them, although most of them are well-off.
I need coffee before I type!