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freshwest

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10. A lot of people got interested in the Paulies during the Bush reign of terror. And during that time,
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:39 PM
Jan 2012

I even hoped for a combined ticket with Paul and Kucinich or Gravel. Unfortunately, there were other elements to the Paul people that indicated they were just GOP with a different brand.

And at the very start, the Tea Party was imagined to be a Progressive movement. But they all fell back into their Reaganesque roots. Paul himself is incompetent and his supporters are a cult.

They can get quite violent despite their R(EVOL)ution slogan, with love spelled backwards. They behave as a mob and Paul doesn't lead them. They don't find anything wrong with the Selection in 2000, because they have been taught to disrespect legal process as a liberal thing. They despise Democrats and progressives, calling them statists, government supporters.

It's easy to destroy, backbreakingly hard to build. They don't think things through. Paul would install a firmly theocratic, fascist economy in the USA.

Libertarianism is straight GOP. Tbey desire the liberty and freedom of not paying for irresponsible behavior toward others who cannot resist. They regard the government as evil because of regulation that may slow their getting rich, as well as those regulations that affect how they can treat their fellow citizens.

Most of the people in America don't fit their standard of being citizens, though. That includes women. I got in some debates with their kin, the taaparty and Consittution party. They want all amendment repealed. Women don't need education, or the right to vote, they need to stay home, make babies and clean. No kidding.

Their solution of letting the churches and families take care anyone they run over, is a failure and it is the default GOP position. If you don't have either church or family to take care of you in trouble, then die. It must have been something you did.

They don't address the bigger issues, since most of them are profiting from it. I"ve read the libertarian forums where they equate human life with dollars. Where they call for those who are disabled or born disabled to be euthanized, as they don't pay taxes. In their revered free market, those people are simply not viable commodities anymore. So leave.

All of this is just under the surface of their 'revolution.' They regard themselves as victims of liberals, welfare queens, government and the 'NWO.'

Tthey have pushed 'personhood' laws in all the states. Except at the moment the person leaves the womb, they are a commodity to be used and discarded. They don't think about the intrinsic evil they are turning a blind eye to.

In the end, they are fascists seeking a patrician social order with church and big bosses dominating everyone since the commons would be gone. It's working, too.

Since they see themselves as victims, you can't reason with them, although most of them are well-off.



I need coffee before I type!

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Under Ron Paul, there will be eternal peace & you can have all the drugs you want baldguy Jan 2012 #1
Hey good news warrior1 Jan 2012 #2
IMO Mr Dixon Jan 2012 #3
Ron Paul is what happens when people feel no one is speaking to them, imo. EFerrari Jan 2012 #19
Libertarianism in general is for non-thinkers who think they are thinkers. onehandle Jan 2012 #4
I think you nailed it -- and I called myself a Libertarian for a brief time after I'd heard gateley Jan 2012 #7
me too nt PRETZEL Jan 2012 #9
I flirted with Harry Browne's libertarianism 35 years ago or so. Morning Dew Jan 2012 #23
I never bothered to pursue it, though, gateley Jan 2012 #25
You would have. Morning Dew Jan 2012 #28
Omg, Otto was a Ron Paul supporter. EFerrari Jan 2012 #20
I was initially interested in Ron Paul last time around because I'd only heard what these people are gateley Jan 2012 #5
A lot of people got interested in the Paulies during the Bush reign of terror. And during that time, freshwest Jan 2012 #10
EXCELLENT rant, freshwest! gateley Jan 2012 #11
The Tea Party was invented, not formed. n/t DefenseLawyer Jan 2012 #13
Righteous rant Son of Gob Jan 2012 #17
I felt this way about Ralph Nader in 1996 and 2000. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #36
They can't see past "Legalize Weed". HughBeaumont Jan 2012 #6
Exactly. However, many of these young people are students. GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #27
and if they are young women, they have to understand that Paul's liberty talk stops with CTyankee Jan 2012 #29
Have Obama come out strongly for the legalization of Pot Marrah_G Jan 2012 #8
No. i_sometimes Jan 2012 #21
Plenty of young people buy into the "Social Security is bankrupt" baloney as well DefenseLawyer Jan 2012 #12
True. kentuck Jan 2012 #14
Same here Locrian Jan 2012 #15
A "peace candidate" would not have voted to go into Afghanistan. arbusto_baboso Jan 2012 #16
He regrets it Ter Jan 2012 #24
I didn't support the war. arbusto_baboso Jan 2012 #37
Paul opposed the timetable because it was not for an unconditional exit Ter Jan 2012 #38
Blah, blah, blah. arbusto_baboso Jan 2012 #42
Except he'll declare war on education, the middle class, the Govt. and the environment FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #18
Ron Paul is so far to the right SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #22
Yes, I agree. But I also believe that means there's something there to work with DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #26
very good point Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #33
Graph: In NH Paul's support was highest among lower income voters. pampango Jan 2012 #30
His Solutions DO NOT PASS THE OVERVIEW TEST..Duration & Stability opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #31
So is Obama to the right or left of RP? Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #32
We need to locate a good source of R Paul literature that we can give to people like my grandson jwirr Jan 2012 #34
I think it's funny RZM Jan 2012 #35
I don't place much stake in young white male frat types, personally. joshcryer Jan 2012 #39
I don't know about them being deceived by Ron Paul himself Major Nikon Jan 2012 #40
I agree slay Jan 2012 #41
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