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The Magistrate

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26. It Is A Belief Outside Politics, Sir

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 03:24 PM

Apr 2021

A resolve to overthrow a political order cannot be part of politics within that political order. It is inimical to that political order, in just the way an infection is to a body.

I am well aware this can cut against revolutionary aspirations from any direction, still it remains the case. The degree to which any state allows seditionist and insurrectionist agitation is a measure of whether the state feels threatened by it. If the state does feel threatened by such activity, it will never treat it as political expression, nor should anyone expect it to. People who devote themselves to such activity need to be very clear about this.

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The Military Says It's Confronting Extremism. A Prominent White Nationalist Just Finished Boot Camp. [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 OP

There's Not Much I'm Tired Of More The Magistrate Apr 2021 #1

Investigations are great at creating the appearance of accountability and action, but the will to WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #2

Like 'Blue-Ribbon' Commissions The Magistrate Apr 2021 #10

I'd argue *especially* when it comes from white supremacy. intheflow Apr 2021 #12

Good point. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #13

No kidding DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #29

Right? You and Me Both. Sick and Tired of it. I'm in my 70's, "Looking into...." crickets. n/t msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #35

It's exhausting, Sir Hekate Apr 2021 #53

I first read that as "The Military Says it's Confronting Feminism." That seems more likely. Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #3

Obviously I don't dig on the military being filled with White Nationalists ... it's scary really Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #4

Each branch has its own prohibitions against participation in extremist groups and activities. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #9

Racist Sedition, Sir, Is Not A Political Belief The Magistrate Apr 2021 #11

sedition (racial or otherwise) aimed at the government stopdiggin Apr 2021 #23

It Is A Belief Outside Politics, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2021 #26

outside of a particular political order stopdiggin Apr 2021 #31

By your definition, then Jan 6th INSURRECtION was merely a political expression of free speech msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #37

nonsense (and there is nothing 'merely' in any aspect stopdiggin Apr 2021 #40

Thank you for the clarification.. I should have worded differently msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #46

I support a really wide range of 'speech' stopdiggin Apr 2021 #49

Isn't that what can be described of White Supremacy? msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #50

that, AND a large number of the gun wielding stopdiggin Apr 2021 #51

I'd say we're pretty much on the same page. msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #52

There Are Only Particular Political Orders, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2021 #38

who said anything about 'rights' to revolution?, or appealed to stopdiggin Apr 2021 #42

It Is Not, Sir, State Sanction That Defines The Magistrate Apr 2021 #43

I just heard an anouncement, that Elvis has left the building stopdiggin Apr 2021 #48

The potential DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #30

So hypothetical case here. plimsoll Apr 2021 #34

Heres a solution superpatriotman Apr 2021 #5

Say more? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #7

Water down the crazy superpatriotman Apr 2021 #36

Extremism stand day day was a joke and nothing will happen because nakocal Apr 2021 #6

I think that was a madate made a few weeks ago. 2naSalit Apr 2021 #15

Don't know about the military now but even when I served eons ago, most commands handled this dutch777 Apr 2021 #8

My husband, retired Army, works for government, recently had one of the "new" workshops Solly Mack Apr 2021 #14

+1 2naSalit Apr 2021 #16

Maybe needs to talk with someone that could do something about this? bluestarone Apr 2021 #18

He did. Solly Mack Apr 2021 #20

... bluestarone Apr 2021 #21

A good article that talks about the training Kaleva Apr 2021 #19

Definitely need a critical thinking class. Solly Mack Apr 2021 #22

Somewhat related: a critique of the "sheep-dipping" training style JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2021 #24

Thanks! Solly Mack Apr 2021 #25

My favorite class was about why I shouldn't bribe foreigners. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2021 #28

I think they'll work the kinks out as time goes on. Kaleva Apr 2021 #39

If you think a Republican/Nazi, white supremacist would get kicked out of the military, you're wrong johnthewoodworker Apr 2021 #17

Time for a Code Red aeromanKC Apr 2021 #27

"Not aware," "investigations," "looking into it," "officials will likely determine whether" ancianita Apr 2021 #32

It appears they have revived dadt quakerboy Apr 2021 #33

When I served, this is how we did it jmowreader Apr 2021 #41

He should be removed. He seems to be another Timothy McVeigh rockfordfile Apr 2021 #44

They are probably having to walk a fine line with the 1st Amishman Apr 2021 #45

Military needs to catch up with the real world. Have FBI level screenings and take racism seriously. TigressDem Apr 2021 #47