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In reply to the discussion: For those of you out there who believe Mitt Romney will start WWIII if elected..... [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)31. Let's be realistic.
Putin was a member of the KGB from 1975-1991...no doubt he still feels the pain of the collapse of a political system he originally supported. Since assuming the reins of power in Russia he has slowly but steadily consolidated that power to the point where he has very few serious political opponents. The Russian people may "be up in arms" if Putin made military moves against the West, but they would do as an unarmed mob. Different rules in that country regarding ownership of personal weapons.
Maybe so, but would he really want to gamble with 160 million Russian lives just because Romney invaded Iran or Syria? Putin's crooked, but he's no Stalin. Even Stalin and Brezhnev would have balked at that, because invading Iran in a future year, would not be anything like NATO invading East Germany or Czechoslovakia in an parallel universe 1980s. In the latter scenario, WWIII would pretty much be a sure thing. In the former? Not nearly as much.
Seriously?? If they decide to pull in all of the loans they've made to the US, we would be the ones in major trouble, not them.
We'd be in deep shit, I don't doubt that, but if we pulled out of trading with China, they'd be in the hole too. They are far from invincible, you know. (and even a few cities being lost would be the end for them. Can you say, "Warlord Era II", anyone?)
You seem to have forgotten that the same people advising Romney are the same former Cold War warriors who advised Ronnie, Poppy and Junior. The NeoCons believe that Manifest Destiny is a global concept...world domination is their real aim in life. Yes, Romney's not very bright, but he'll do exactly what he's told by this group because he'll be told it's good for business.
To the contrary, I know darn well that a lot of the Cold Warriors are still around. But why didn't Georgia cause it in 2008? Bush was little better than Romney would be. And I doubt losing bases and some major cities, especially ones like New York, Chicago, etc. would be any good for business.
Not according to the group I described above. Their enemies may have changed somewhat, but the goals of the NeoCons remain the same. These peole will be taking prominent roles in Romney's administration and pushing the same goals they pushed while working for Ronnie, Poppy, and Junior.
Bottom line? We should be VERY concerned about the possibility of Romney becoming President.
Believe me, I am quite concerned. But if we let this kind of nutty thinking spread, that WWIII is imminent, or whatever, then it is a sure thing that the only people who will truly benefit in the end will be those same people we all dread: Kissinger, PNAC and company.
What I've said makes sense when you really think about it.
I am legitimate concerned because this is an election year and the Repubs are scraping the total bottom of the barrel when it comes to trying to find ways to discredit us Democrats. And that includes the possibility of double think agitprop, such as right-wingers in the press pushing imminent WWIII propaganda(while secretly hoping for it at the same time). I wouldn't be surprised; better to get this out early than to be caught off guard if they do try something like that.
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For those of you out there who believe Mitt Romney will start WWIII if elected..... [View all]
AverageJoe90
Oct 2012
OP
If you knew what you were talking about, how come not that many people are agreeing with you?....
OldDem2012
Oct 2012
#92
Ha-ha. "Private Romney"! I like the cut of your jib. Put the private on
coalition_unwilling
Oct 2012
#160
Meh, there's plenty of people here who think "WWIII" every time a diplomat sneezes.
Posteritatis
Oct 2012
#86
A war, no doubt. But I doubt WWIII is even more than remotely possible today.
AverageJoe90
Oct 2012
#15
Not WWIII, just a 3 trillion dollar war with Iran that will cost 4000 American lives
begin_within
Oct 2012
#6
You think a land war with Iran will cost only 4000 American lives? Iran has 1,000,000 soldiers
coalition_unwilling
Oct 2012
#161
WWIII is not educated speculation by any means. That's why I'm a little concerned lately.
AverageJoe90
Oct 2012
#14
Could not intend to and do it just the same. No experience + Bush foreign policy team
jsmirman
Oct 2012
#18
I'm very concerned about Romney's possible fuck-ups would he ever win the Presidency. Believe me.
AverageJoe90
Oct 2012
#22
I think perhaps it can be expressed as - he could cause major damage and chaos overseas
jsmirman
Oct 2012
#27
umm, he's a fuckin liar and will sell his mother for money?!?! REALLY? He has no redeeming character
uponit7771
Oct 2012
#20
Yes, if he can profit somehow from it he'll do it...he's already said he'd take advantage of any ...
uponit7771
Oct 2012
#133
If he just got us involved in smaller regional wars it would be bad
aint_no_life_nowhere
Oct 2012
#33
What I know is what rommney has the same PNAC people that bush had as his advisors, and I do NOT
still_one
Oct 2012
#34
it's my future and i'll speculate about it all i want. extreme? don't think so.
spanone
Oct 2012
#57
HE won't. But he'll sign off on the neocon's new war, like GWB did. He's weak...
Honeycombe8
Oct 2012
#69
yea, the doom and gloomers are always around, but they have been fairly quiet compared to past years
quinnox
Oct 2012
#90
TBH, I think you're probably right about this, at least as far as DU is concerned.
AverageJoe90
Oct 2012
#109
WWIII is hyperbole, he will just start a war, Iran being the most likely target...
Agnosticsherbet
Oct 2012
#91
It's only about the oil. Iran is the remaing independent top five reserves
Fire Walk With Me
Oct 2012
#94
Russia is the No. 2 oil exporter last time I checked, and will be runaway No. 1
Strelnikov_
Oct 2012
#96
Yes, and oil is all that is required to begin another world war. "Peak oil" and all that.
Fire Walk With Me
Oct 2012
#99
A few (or more) years back Canada and Venezuela jumped to the top due to their tar sands
Strelnikov_
Oct 2012
#106
You're behind by one war...Richard Armitage has publicly stated WWIII has already occurred.
Lars39
Oct 2012
#98
WWIII? Of this I am sure, he would be glad to send anyone elses' kid to fight anything
lonestarnot
Oct 2012
#136
Yes, I can agree, he is very dangerous and will cause us MUCH trouble if elected.
AverageJoe90
Oct 2012
#148
Who has said this? Why are you making up issues that don't don't exist?
NashvilleLefty
Oct 2012
#157
pretty sure WW3 has already started...at least, the *August 1939* antics anyway
21 December 2012
Oct 2012
#159