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Hortensis

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47. Well, I can't argue with your worry for the future when I have no idea what
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:52 AM
Apr 2021

our future's going to be, but I can't agree with your outlook on who we are or where we are and why.

Hateland, which is on my list but I haven't read yet, is about extremists and radicalization, not about "mediocre white people," and suggests ways in which the majorities who always either control extremism, or fail, can regain control. It's all about extremism, especially among the radical right who are always the planet's big troublemakers, without somehow conflating that with too many mediocre people of any color.

Btw, it's obvious that wherever human beings are, societies must inevitably contain overwhelming numbers of mediocre people, regardless of the prevailing skin color, as well as their shares of hard-right reactionaries. This is a huge problem for democratic republics that our founding fathers wincingly foresaw, and yet our own history is one of irregular but extremely real humanistic advances on all the important fronts, above all equality. Including during this century's anxious troubles.

Many change-driven fears are causing some people to overreact in various negative ways and grab at extreme solutions, peaceful and otherwise. And external enemies are making malignant use of new mass communications to defeat us by nonmilitary means, which include sophisticated new techniques to replace thinking in whole populations with fear-driven rage and despair. In America, they're weaponizing our very real internal problems, helping radical extremism along, including in the Republican Party, helping elect Trump, doing what they can to encourage factional and racist storms to turn as many as possible on each other and cause everyone to lose faith in ourselves and our nation, and to move disorder to chaos and collapse.

The Biden administration is racing to restore stability and widespread confidence in future wellbeing before one of the resultant swings to the brink takes us over. To put it prosaically, when and if more people of all colors are planning guaranteed annual vacations from jobs that provide the kind of stable incomes they were raised to believe are their right, and are assured that climate change is being handled so they're able to foresee stable futures, the anxieties that lead to extremism, including racial extremism, will calm down. Again.

And in spite of serious problems, we'll continue our move forward into the future of unprecedented wellbeing we can have if we will. Not a fairytale. There'll still be all the old problems too.

Could somebody please inform Joe Manchin? FoxNewsSucks Apr 2021 #1
S1 / HR1 & 4. will become law. speak easy Apr 2021 #12
That would be lovely; on what source (or reality) are you basing this assertion? Volaris Apr 2021 #21
It is actually not so lovely. speak easy Apr 2021 #29
I wasnt clear; I'm sorry...I meant what makes you think it will pass on Volaris Apr 2021 #30
Oh, OK. speak easy Apr 2021 #32
Ok, thank you! Volaris Apr 2021 #39
Yes, he does seem confident. I so hope he is right! LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #40
My Indivisible group is pushing this with all our might. calimary Apr 2021 #2
that 2nd graph- i keep asking myself, what is this water thing meant to distract from? mopinko Apr 2021 #3
That would be a good chore for a few Republicans that do not like the direction their Party is going kentuck Apr 2021 #4
Hope the sensible moderate repugs w do the right thing onetexan Apr 2021 #17
Including Republican Party "drop outs" ewagner Apr 2021 #27
I watched quite a few Republicans in the Senate True Blue American Apr 2021 #41
Agree we need to pass HR1/S1.. PortTack Apr 2021 #5
There may be fewer Republican voters around by next election IronLionZion Apr 2021 #6
At least for now DownriverDem Apr 2021 #7
BUT---the state GOP is planning go use a little-known law unique to Michigan whereby Atticus Apr 2021 #11
If it's this, there is more to it. kristopher Apr 2021 #42
What's Really At Stake modrepub Apr 2021 #8
Insurrection caucus? Yes, but there's far more. Hortensis Apr 2021 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #9
Stephen Miller. hay rick Apr 2021 #10
The RNC argues that Democratic votes must be suppressed because they outnumber Republicans. Marcuse Apr 2021 #13
Let's start organizing against this injustice! It is not the true American way to run elections! UCmeNdc Apr 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #16
Keep up the pressure of GOTV..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2021 #15
Eventually, we need a Constitutional amendment-- lastlib Apr 2021 #18
I don't want to send them to a "time out." BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #19
What we're witnessing SidneyR Apr 2021 #20
This. Or even 2022 if they could manage it. They're using fascistic Hortensis Apr 2021 #26
+1, I'm blown away at some of the historical parallels that have to be hitting others in the face uponit7771 Apr 2021 #36
Yes. Especially the people who did it there and then and here and now. Hortensis Apr 2021 #38
Republican legislatures don't have much choice, thanks to Trump gulliver Apr 2021 #22
True Snackshack Apr 2021 #23
we witnessed a national tantrum under that former guy. AllaN01Bear Apr 2021 #24
There were tantrums when Bill Clinton and Barack Obama Ilsa Apr 2021 #28
I give the country 30-50 years before it comes apart. lonely bird Apr 2021 #31
If you'd said this in 1930, you'd still be waiting, unless you Hortensis Apr 2021 #37
Change that occurred... lonely bird Apr 2021 #45
Well, I can't argue with your worry for the future when I have no idea what Hortensis Apr 2021 #47
You are correct re: Hateland lonely bird Apr 2021 #48
It IS frightening to realize how fragile the human psyche is. Hortensis Apr 2021 #49
They scream about losing their rights as citizens... Trueblue Texan Apr 2021 #33
Schumer must step up, ignore the parliamentarian and nuke the filibuster -- THAT "time out." ancianita Apr 2021 #34
ARE WE??? YoshidaYui Apr 2021 #35
We have been in a Civil War that has never ended (and most don't realize it) Pachamama Apr 2021 #46
Agreed Atticus Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Apr 2021 #44
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