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Humanist_Activist

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35. See, this position is just batshit insane to me.

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:16 AM

Apr 2021

I can and have, so far, gone my entire life without ever having a need to own any type of gun, and I have no desire to, Free speech, Free Religion, Privacy, Self-incrimination, etc. I have all used since hitting the age of majority, as has most Americans. Owning guns should not be considered a civil right, it does little to nothing to protect us, and I have to ask, from what? Evidence on how effective they are as self-defense weapons is dubious at best. So basically it amounts to being a legally protected, extremely dangerous hobby, no more, no less.

ON EDIT: In general I would be supportive of nearly any method that radically reduces the circulation of handguns and semi-autos in this country. That will go a long way to ensuring that gun deaths are reduced.

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How to Stop the Gun Carnage....A Proposal: [View all] Stuart G Apr 2021 OP

There must be a lot of widows with unlicensed guns pwb Apr 2021 #1

Are you aware that in most of the country, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #4

Most of the country but not the population. pwb Apr 2021 #8

You are correct. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #9

Yeah, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #2

OK..Then start with ..."Universal Background Checks"..then move up.. Stuart G Apr 2021 #3

I like it. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #7

Then The Media Needs To Stop Covering The Day To Day Mass Shootings SoCalDavidS Apr 2021 #11

Well, there is that old media saying, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #12

Need proof of insurance jmbar2 Apr 2021 #5

I would add that too...& I will Stuart G Apr 2021 #6

Gun Violent Deaths in U.S.A. Stuart G Apr 2021 #10

Make the insurance companies liable for those they insure. And insurance be mandatory. dem4decades Apr 2021 #13

I agree with number 6 universal background checks the rest NO nt doc03 Apr 2021 #14

This proposal to 'nothing will ever change' proponents sanatanadharma Apr 2021 #15

Buybacks MenloParque Apr 2021 #16

Also add longer waiting time, cooling off period, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #17

License required and insurance required Sienna86 Apr 2021 #18

My state licenses all ownership of handguns. It has since 1911. Straw Man Apr 2021 #22

None of which will ever have a remote possibility of passing Polybius Apr 2021 #19

hmmmm WarGamer Apr 2021 #20

So 5,6, & 7 are possible....There was a time long time ago...that I thought.. Stuart G Apr 2021 #24

Oh yeah! Straw Man Apr 2021 #21

I'd like to see a ban on military weapons, even those disguised as civilian, like the AR15. rickyhall Apr 2021 #23

Maybe that will happen, & Anything Can Happen. Stuart G Apr 2021 #25

I would also like to see a ban on military weapons... DiamondShark Apr 2021 #52

Raise the age limit to own a gun to 25 or even 30 Initech Apr 2021 #26

Not a bad idea..but ...raising the age won't happen, and yes pass a test and carry a Stuart G Apr 2021 #27

DC v. Heller specifically ruled that handgun ownership is an individual right NickB79 Apr 2021 #28

Often, the Supreme Court over rules a previous ruling...There are many examples of this. Stuart G Apr 2021 #29

Unless Biden expands the court, that's a pipe dream for the next 20+ yr NickB79 Apr 2021 #49

I'd have a hard time voting for anyone who advocated for all this. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #30

As would I. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #31

I understand your concern, but do you understand ............ Stuart G Apr 2021 #32

Here's a long answer, but at least I will answer your questions. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #34

See, this position is just batshit insane to me. Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #35

It may seem bat shit crazy to you, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #36

So? That doesn't make it any less crazy... Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #38

... MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #39

But why, what use is handgun ownership? Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #40

Look, you and I are never going to agree on the private ownership of handguns, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #41

I just don't understand, I used to have your position, but when I looked at the studies and... Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #42

I'm not trying to be rude or argumentative here, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #44

Again, it is a hobby, not a necessity, hell I'd damn near support a constitutional right to own... Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #45

Perfectly stated and well thought out FakeNoose Apr 2021 #37

To be honest, I don't hold much hope for the Supreme Court, I just put the idea out... Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #43

There is a rather massive difference between those two countries though YMB Apr 2021 #46

Handgun ownership is severely restricted in Canada, that's what I'm talking about... Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #48

My bad YMB Apr 2021 #50

In my view the people and the militia are not the same thing. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author SYFROYH Apr 2021 #33

Some major 5th amendment issues there Amishman Apr 2021 #51