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In reply to the discussion: "Normal" sexuality? [View all]JustAnotherGen
(38,057 posts)27. True
The only lagging point is how much women are underpaid compared to men for the same position.
Not True To Date: We may even reach a point where women make more then men, and that is highly likely if women continued to outpace men in academic excellence.
The Personal:
I had the man with less education working for me making 11K more a year. It was his first 'marketing' job (previously he did something like IT support) and I inherited him. Did I hold him accountable? Nope. I held the man I reported into and the twinkie HR admin accountable for that mistake. But was it a mistake? Nope. Happens all the time around here . . . I'm just the rare woman to point out it 'looks bad' - Black Female Manager making less than a white male employee . .. you don't want me running to Black Enterprise or Working Woman Magazine with this do you (we get accolades from them each year).
The High Level:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/09/education-five-times-more-important-gender-income/42253/
This is happening, in part, because college degrees are seen as more important for the career success of women than they are for men. More than three-fourths of American say that women need to go to college in order to succeed, while only 68 percent thought the same for men, the same Pew study found.
Smart women know that they need a Masters Decree in Biochemistry to be an Assistant Manager at Burger King. Her 10th grade drop out male counterpart gets handed the General Managers positoin and more money on a silver platter.
Not True To Date: We may even reach a point where women make more then men, and that is highly likely if women continued to outpace men in academic excellence.
The Personal:
I had the man with less education working for me making 11K more a year. It was his first 'marketing' job (previously he did something like IT support) and I inherited him. Did I hold him accountable? Nope. I held the man I reported into and the twinkie HR admin accountable for that mistake. But was it a mistake? Nope. Happens all the time around here . . . I'm just the rare woman to point out it 'looks bad' - Black Female Manager making less than a white male employee . .. you don't want me running to Black Enterprise or Working Woman Magazine with this do you (we get accolades from them each year).
The High Level:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/09/education-five-times-more-important-gender-income/42253/
This is happening, in part, because college degrees are seen as more important for the career success of women than they are for men. More than three-fourths of American say that women need to go to college in order to succeed, while only 68 percent thought the same for men, the same Pew study found.
Smart women know that they need a Masters Decree in Biochemistry to be an Assistant Manager at Burger King. Her 10th grade drop out male counterpart gets handed the General Managers positoin and more money on a silver platter.
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In the context of sociological discussions, the word 'minority' does not refer to numbers.
redqueen
Jan 2012
#3
"In the context of sociological discussions, the word 'minority' does not refer to numbers."
LoZoccolo
Jan 2012
#6
then why did i never hear aparthied era s. african blacks called a "minority"?
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#132
No, males can't ever be in the minority because they are the dominate group
Major Nikon
Jan 2012
#127
No, women are not a numerical minority. They are however a nondominant group in our culture.
Gormy Cuss
Jan 2012
#9
Because the issue being discussed requires accepting the false premise.
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2012
#104
Well that's the thing. Equality is a math term, and it requires values on both sides to evaluate.
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2012
#99
equality is in the Scandinavian countries. ... i dont know that i necessarily believe that.
seabeyond
Jan 2012
#7
There is no normal/abnormal. Just society as a fluid, dynamic collection of behavior and preference.
RadiationTherapy
Jan 2012
#13
Society and the power dynamics therein are fluid and able to be shaped. You have
RadiationTherapy
Jan 2012
#11
no, the reason people tune out the feminists is because they are speaking hard truths--and sometimes
niyad
Jan 2012
#21
"I'm not trying to demonize anything people do...as long as it's consensual and involves adults.."
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#44
it is only perverted when OTHER people (meaning dems, libs, etc.,) do it. witness diaper dave,
niyad
Jan 2012
#23
I'd like to say it's my pleasure but it's really kinda depressing to be honest.
redqueen
Jan 2012
#30
I'm being serious with this question: why do we need to define what "normal sexuality" is?
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2012
#45
rq, maybe the problem is, lot of people, not just men, don't/can't understand how
Zorra
Jan 2012
#89
Using "minority" to describe the majority diminshes the struggle that actual minorities face. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2012
#97
I'm not overly concerned about putting "your poor little mind at ease"
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2012
#102
Did you seriously just say that women in the US are like blacks in apartheid SA?
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2012
#113
If women can't get elected in this country, they should ask the dominant voting bloc why not.
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2012
#119
It's not as easy as pointing to the numbers and saying discrimination is the only answer
Major Nikon
Jan 2012
#138
AAUW themselves say (in the fine print) after correcting for work hours and experience...
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2012
#144
The dictionary is apparently a tool of the vast patriarchal conspiracy. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2012
#96
"Normal" is a perfectly fine word. It is a statistical term meaning "within the norm," the norm
yellowcanine
Jan 2012
#80