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Shanti Mama

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Sun Oct 14, 2012, 05:29 AM Oct 2012

Help needed. Explaining to friend that CNN and NYT are NOT wildly liberal news sources. [View all]

I'm having an interesting exchange of FB messages with an old friend who lives in WY and supports Romney. She's a good person and we've agreed to be civil and respectful, and to "listen".

I sent her a couple of links--one from the NYT and one CNN--and said I thought these two news sources could be considered conservative at some times and liberal at others. She disagrees and thinks they're both quite liberal. Can anyone help me? I want to open her eyes to how the news sources she relies on are biased. I don't know if she watches FOX. Haven't wanted to go there. But, I want to get her to see that these two--NYT and CNN--are not bastions of liberal propaganda.

She is not a high-info voter. I'm starting to appreciate DU more and more as I learn through her just how easy it is to accept as fact BS you hear from friends, family and some news outlets. EX:

Within the "Obamacare" is also a 3% real estate tax on home sales - which will help fund "obamacare". (This comes from a friend/real estate agent.) 17 thousand new IRS agents will be put in place to enforce obamacare. $714 billion will come out of medicare to fund obamacare, The plan is not self-sustaining and will also put off some of the burden to the states. So in effect we all get to pay for it twice.


She genuinely believes this, but she's open to hearing my side. I've researched the real estate thing, but have found no reference to additional IRS agents. Is the $714 billion the same sum that's been bandied about so much by the republicans?

Thanks for your help!

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I went through a nightmare conversation like this on FB - would a takedown of PBS help? jsmirman Oct 2012 #1
Not sure how I could use this, but thanks for your reply. Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #5
PBS is part of the firmament reflexively thought of a liberal by default jsmirman Oct 2012 #9
look at the newspaper endorsements listed today Fresh_Start Oct 2012 #2
Good idea. Is there a list on DU. Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #3
here's a few links listed today Fresh_Start Oct 2012 #4
the top one isn't opening. Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #6
you have to remove with I types at the end of the line Fresh_Start Oct 2012 #22
It is only logic ask her why is the media doing such a bad job hiding its bias? aandegoons Oct 2012 #7
Good one! Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #11
Chain email bullshit debunked Lasher Oct 2012 #8
Thanks. Excellent. Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #12
Ask her to put a spectrum together from most liberal to most conservative on point Oct 2012 #10
Will do this. Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #13
My latest post to my friend... Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #14
My friend also thinks small business owners hate Obamacare. Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #15
FAIR (Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting) has a lot on this. bananas Oct 2012 #16
This type of "educating" is too tiring for me. Tell her to do her own research. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #17
She's not interested in doing research and Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #20
That's fine and I've had fun doing the same thing for years. Lasher Oct 2012 #23
KISS-Keep It Simple Sweetie IF a "News Agency" deals opinion instead of fact, it's SKEWS, not NEWS Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #18
Thank you! Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #21
You need to ask her who OWNS the media. DiverDave Oct 2012 #19
I wish we had volunteer inbound call centers and web chat gulliver Oct 2012 #24
"What Liberal Media?" is an excellent book about the push to the right of all mass media. Overseas Oct 2012 #25
NYT-Blair/Miller CNN-Wolf/Candy/Bernie destroyed Dukakis nuff said Ted himself never a dem graham4anything Oct 2012 #26
You could direct your friend to CNN.com's peculiar front page 21 December 2012 Oct 2012 #27
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