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Ms. Toad

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64. I am not arguing, at all, that white people aren't treated better by the cops
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 02:14 PM
Apr 2021

(and pretty much the rest of the world).

But even a broken clock is right once or twice a day.

All I am saying is that - once the police officer arrived in the middle of that knife fight, he was forced to choose between allowing Ma'Khai to stab the girl in pink - or using lethal (or less lethal) force to stop her. Although I wish he would have drawn his taser, rather than his gun, both would have been lawful uses of lethal force in defense of self or other.

The solution isn't to say that Ritenhouse should have been killed (or would have, had his skin been a different color). We need to fix the broken clock, not insist it isn't 12:02 merely becsause this is one of those times that the snapshot of the clock happened to be correct at that precise second.


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I saw the video quickesst Apr 2021 #1
From what I saw in the video, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #2
It is amazing what some people are willing to ignore ripcord Apr 2021 #5
Very damning video. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #7
be careful Skittles Apr 2021 #29
The girl with the knife looks much bigger, Raine Apr 2021 #10
Probably.... quickesst Apr 2021 #9
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #11
Thanks MCE.... quickesst Apr 2021 #14
It's definitely a tragedy all around, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #15
I agree quickesst Apr 2021 #38
I agree. A shitty foster system allowed this to happen. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #44
This. Treefrog Apr 2021 #63
Officer Stands Idle While Black Child Stabbed to Death NH Ethylene Apr 2021 #25
yup Skittles Apr 2021 #30
FIFY ThunderRoad Apr 2021 #65
That is horrific to see that woman bracing for the impact Nixie Apr 2021 #42
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #43
Will we ever learn what the fight was about? RussBLib Apr 2021 #3
Would it matter? Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #37
Not just conservatives, most of the "experts" on CNN at least thought Hoyt Apr 2021 #4
She didn't just have a knife, she was going to use it Raine Apr 2021 #6
I remember when SF cops shot a guy in a wheelchair after a standoff where he had a knife... RockRaven Apr 2021 #8
Should the cop have waited to see if she was going to stab the other girl? left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #20
You have to look at each case on its own. NH Ethylene Apr 2021 #27
True. Just as the George Floyd video tells it all, so does this one. brush Apr 2021 #28
sad but good shoot. Groundhawg Apr 2021 #12
Basically agree, but I abhor phrase "good shoot." Nothing good about it. Hoyt Apr 2021 #13
To me, Its good that the girl she was in the process of stabbing is alive. Good shoot. Innocent life Groundhawg Apr 2021 #21
I know. Not really meant to criticize you, but there are few "good shoots." Hoyt Apr 2021 #22
I would use the term sarisataka Apr 2021 #16
+1. Hoyt Apr 2021 #23
Respectfully, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #17
Well, it had a lot to do with what she was doing with that knife. Straw Man Apr 2021 #18
Not long I suspect. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #19
Exactly. At time police didn't know he had shot anyone. He was just another rube Hoyt Apr 2021 #24
He'd be fired on immediately, I'm sure. nt Raine Apr 2021 #26
I am not going to get into an argument over this on the DU however I will simply say cstanleytech Apr 2021 #31
I just wish Demobrat Apr 2021 #32
It is realistic its just we black people have supper human strength to the point nothing but grenade uponit7771 Apr 2021 #34
Do you feel that the girl was justified using deadly force? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #36
Don't know yet, I don't have the story but most likely not and that doesn't justify the constant uponit7771 Apr 2021 #39
Payton Ham 16..killed by trooper..you should read this story caber09 Apr 2021 #40
Please understand "justified" doesn't always mean necessary, that's Maddow's point too uponit7771 Apr 2021 #46
thank you so much for this CatWoman Apr 2021 #45
I agree about the general use of force, but this instance involves the cop shooting ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #49
The kid in the OP committed murder and had his gun walking down the street, he lived uponit7771 Apr 2021 #50
Do you mean Rittenhouse? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #51
"but that case is different." not in the context of BLM and Maddow's segment last night and uponit7771 Apr 2021 #52
Please let me know if you think Rittenhouse should have been shot by the police ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #55
Revenge shooting is not lawful. Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #56
Best...Post...Yet. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #57
Rittenhouse told the police he shot two people and was able to go home breathing uponit7771 Apr 2021 #58
To use self-defense, Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #60
No, jus ... don't please, the witness's that came to the cops said it wasn't self defense and uponit7771 Apr 2021 #61
I am not arguing, at all, that white people aren't treated better by the cops Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #64
K&R, perfect example of justified doesn't mean the right thing to do uponit7771 Apr 2021 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Apr 2021 #35
Well... Dr. Strange Apr 2021 #41
Would a taser shot most likely stop a 15 yr old girl ? thx in advance uponit7771 Apr 2021 #47
"Most likely"? I'd say no. Dr. Strange Apr 2021 #54
It would and he's close enough, the question was rhetorical uponit7771 Apr 2021 #62
Maybe, maybe not. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #59
If a cop witnessed him shooting at someone unarmed and then aiming at someone else unarmed. SYFROYH Apr 2021 #48
The crowd following the kid down the street TOLD the cops he just murdered someone but the uponit7771 Apr 2021 #53
Liberals: The cops had to shoot Ma'Khia Bryant because she was USING a knife. brooklynite Apr 2021 #66
Put the hat on that reads "LOGIC" across its face.... quickesst Apr 2021 #67
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