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Tom Rinaldo

(23,191 posts)
42. All or Nothing? What sense does that make?
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 08:14 AM
Apr 2021

A world with less cops could be a world that provides the resources necessary to people so that less cops are needed. And then, in a century or two, maybe we could get to that world with "no cops" that you speak of. Meanwhile we live in a world where politics matter. Calls to abolish or defund policing right now lead to the election of more right wing Republicans who then further militarize the police with their votes. We almost lost the House of Reps in the last election in large part due to that. Had the Republicans picked off a relative handful of additional Democratic seats there would be no George Floyd act, period.

Millions of voters watch coverage of mass shootings such as the one at the FedEx facility where a cop got killed rushing in to confront the shooter and they think Democrats who call for "defunding" police are bat shit crazy. Messaging does count. Yes we should be pushing for "public safety" reforms that will lead to all of us being more safe, and some of that means redirecting some funds so that armed police are not always the first responders to non-violent situations. But the wrong use of inflammatory rhetoric and talking points only makes the situation worse

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lol I'll happily take a world with police over the alternative Devil Child Apr 2021 #1
If you have a world with police, then you have a world with police violence. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #18
Tell me, Disaffected Apr 2021 #21
I don't speak of utopia, although a lot of people like to put that word in my mouth. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #22
I'm ok with a world with police and the inevitible police violence it brings Devil Child Apr 2021 #26
yep catsudon Apr 2021 #23
Bodies of others Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #2
I know I can count on you. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #11
So the only thing... tonedevil Apr 2021 #15
A pretty sad way of looking at the world, isn't it? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #17
Not the only thing saving it but necessary. Devil Child Apr 2021 #29
Poorly written click-bait. RegularJam Apr 2021 #3
A world with Ma'Khia Bryant still alive might be a world with Pink Jogger Suit Girl dead. WarGamer Apr 2021 #4
In a world without cops, all that money goes toward programs that give people what WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #10
All or Nothing? What sense does that make? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2021 #42
Do you honestly think that social programmes will stop all human crime and violence? Celerity Apr 2021 #43
one wonders if the girl in pink would still be here nt msongs Apr 2021 #5
As I say above, in an abolitionist model, we build a world where that confrontation is much more WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #12
Hard pass on a world without police. Ace Rothstein Apr 2021 #6
A world without police doesn't mean LearnedHand Apr 2021 #16
Maybe we can get there in a century or so. Ace Rothstein Apr 2021 #28
LOSING. MESSAGE. NT Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #7
I read the OP Ed. Many of the other articles on that site are really good and recommended. Hoyt Apr 2021 #8
Spot on and far more polite than I was. RegularJam Apr 2021 #9
Represent, WhiskeyGrinder n/t LearnedHand Apr 2021 #13
We need retrials too. Bored in the USA Apr 2021 #14
Are you suggesting sarisataka Apr 2021 #25
Did you ever hear of double jeopardy...you can't under any circumstances have retrials because Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #33
Apparently Civics 101 is no long taught in our schools, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #34
911 Call, Active Shooter DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 2021 #19
This is a hard question to answer, because people who ask this question in bad faith see my answer WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #20
You are Preaching to the Choir DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 2021 #24
You have an active imagination... tonedevil Apr 2021 #27
What is your argument? DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 2021 #30
I'll be interested to see how minority communities BGBD Apr 2021 #31
There is never going to be a world without police that is just nonsense. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #32
I see a world without police as putting all our eggs in one basket NickB79 Apr 2021 #35
Humans have been violent since day 1. yagotme Apr 2021 #37
A world without police is the wild west Calculating Apr 2021 #36
A World without police is bad idea. I shouldn't have to explain this to anyone. nt Progressive Jones Apr 2021 #38
Absurd Willto Apr 2021 #39
and everyone running around with a gun being a vigilant shooting at everything is so much better 🙄 Raine Apr 2021 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author herding cats Apr 2021 #41
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