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Demsrule86

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18. I personally am sick of this sort of rhetoric. Don't trust anyone, and do it yourself... and see it

Sun Apr 25, 2021, 11:08 AM

Apr 2021

how well it goes. Everyone needs allies and trust is a decision you make or don't. This sort of thing drives allies away from a just and necessary cause-ending institutional racism and the dreadful police violence it causes.

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"Ghosted by Allies: Why BIPOC Still Can't Trust White People With Social Justice" [View all] StarfishSaver Apr 2021 OP

K & R. n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2021 #1

I find some hope with the response leading to Chauvin's conviction, the immediate outrage to the hlthe2b Apr 2021 #2

True StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #3

FWIW, at least some of those are trolls Maeve Apr 2021 #4

Because only your judgement matters, right? Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #23

Sadly there was precious little outrage about Ma'Khia wryter2000 Apr 2021 #7

Oh yes, I was saddened and bewildered by your stated fact Cozmo Apr 2021 #11

And now they're making up lies about her StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #12

Somehow white people always imagine themselves as the "good guy" the cops are saving... hunter Apr 2021 #34

Yes StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #35

I heard enough stories in the '70s & '80s of black people being abused... electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #60

When he had a non-lethal Bettie Apr 2021 #15

That is simply not true Zeitghost Apr 2021 #33

That's the problem I have in this case. The dead girl absolutely WAS a deadly threat here, but Progressive Jones Apr 2021 #38

And didn't anyone notice wryter2000 Apr 2021 #45

And if he had killed the wan in pink, people would be bending over backwards StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #64

Maybe she smoked a little joint once n/t wryter2000 Apr 2021 #70

If she had, we would surely hear all about it StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #71

But he didn't kill the wrong one, did he? Treefrog Apr 2021 #76

He got lucky wryter2000 Apr 2021 #79

Tasers have a stupidly high failure rate. Calista241 Apr 2021 #67

KNR niyad Apr 2021 #5

timeline of support/oppose BLM 2017 to present KatK Apr 2021 #6

K&R Solly Mack Apr 2021 #8

Whatever. Goodheart Apr 2021 #9

Exactly! The OP does little but whine and opine. jaxexpat Apr 2021 #16

I don't see how accusing me of untrustworthiness is productive Goodheart Apr 2021 #17

It is insulting. The idea which has touted on this forum of late is all white people are racist... Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #19

It's a manipulation tactic. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #27

Huh? jaxexpat Apr 2021 #32

It isn't about you. cate94 Apr 2021 #54

Thanks for the word salad. Goodheart Apr 2021 #56

uh ... electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #58

+1000 this is the truth and you put it so well. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #20

This is illustrated every day Bettie Apr 2021 #10

Thank you! StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #13

What, exactly, is illustrated every day? Goodheart Apr 2021 #21

For a lot of white people Bettie Apr 2021 #22

That's simply slanderous Goodheart Apr 2021 #26

And when any person of color criticizes any white person for being racially insensitive or racist StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #28

"Our great white saviors"? REALLY? Goodheart Apr 2021 #31

Some Wypipo make that necessary. /nt tonedevil Apr 2021 #40

Except my OP didn't say that StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #44

I've learned to pretty much tolerate uncomfortableness... electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #61

"Our great white saviors." You just answered why many white people don't involved. SMC22307 Apr 2021 #78

Any white person whining about "damned if we do, damned if we don't" StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #80

LOL. Yeah, that 'tude will win allies. SMC22307 Apr 2021 #84

We have no problem winning allies StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #86

Preach, sister wryter2000 Apr 2021 #46

Multiple times over the years people have posted about studies that show Solly Mack Apr 2021 #24

Oh, good information Bettie Apr 2021 #25

"I've started and stopped several posts over the last week or so" Maeve Apr 2021 #39

I do it too Bettie Apr 2021 #42

You're welcome. Solly Mack Apr 2021 #43

Yup wryter2000 Apr 2021 #47

I don't know about the age perception aspect but the ... electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #63

+1 betsuni Apr 2021 #66

Where!? Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #29

After the Trayvon Martin murder I saw so many comments from white people like betsuni Apr 2021 #65

Even with video, we have too many people who refuse to believe what they can see with their own eyes StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #69

Oh yeah, "we don't know what happened before the video started." betsuni Apr 2021 #85

Oh well... Devil Child Apr 2021 #14

I personally am sick of this sort of rhetoric. Don't trust anyone, and do it yourself... and see it Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #18

If something that a stranger posts on a discussion board "drives away" anyone from the cause StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #30

Nothing you or anyone else posts will drive me away. I know that we must end institutional racism Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #36

Yes, we need allies and we have plenty of them StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #37

Thank you for starting this thread wryter2000 Apr 2021 #49

If you are saying that I have lectured you, I have not. And I would say that to seek allies who Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #51

You may not be seen... tonedevil Apr 2021 #41

I don't care how I am seen. I do my best to combat racism because it is important to every Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #48

OK. /nt tonedevil Apr 2021 #50

What I'm fascinated with BannonsLiver Apr 2021 #68

"attempting to reach a mutual understanding but maybe that's too last century." Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #81

It is not up to BIPOC to negotiate with our allies how we will fight for our rights StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #82

You sure you responded to the right post? Because that's not at all what I said. Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #83

Yes, I am StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #87

Your reading comprehension needs some work, I'm afraid. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #88

It seems to take several orders of depth and compassion to be an ally Beringia Apr 2021 #52

Allies shouldn't be concerned with their status with the BIPOC community kcr Apr 2021 #53

I suspect that being a good white ally is a fluxuating characteristic... SYFROYH Apr 2021 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Chautauquas Apr 2021 #57

Thanks for posting and for always being willing to make posts that make people uncomfortable... Blasphemer Apr 2021 #59

I'd forgotten that quote. StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #62

Some of your comments come across as, Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #72

Care to respond to the OP? StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #73

Why can't it be both? N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #74

But you haven't done both StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #75

I'll keep on keeping on somehow, I suppose. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #77