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60. I heard enough stories in the '70s & '80s of black people being abused...

Sun Apr 25, 2021, 11:45 PM

Apr 2021

....or later on in my life killed; adding in so many black people as friends, acquaintances, co-workers, being around black people in NYC - that knowing the violence of The South, knowing there were plenty of Northern racists that a lot of those stories of abuse had to be true.
There were just too many good black folks to be lying about that stuff.

Add in peacefully protesting against The Vietnam War seeing what cops sometimes did (on the news).
Particularly something in the '90s, and protesting against The Iraq War and seeing police treating (mostly white) protestors nastily (by white people's standards) - really made me feel that the cops weren't always on my side either There was stuff too protesting against when The Repugs had theur Presidential Convention in NYC.

.It's been a loooong time since I saw cops as totally good.

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K & R. n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2021 #1

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True StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #3

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Yes StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #35

I heard enough stories in the '70s & '80s of black people being abused... electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #60

When he had a non-lethal Bettie Apr 2021 #15

That is simply not true Zeitghost Apr 2021 #33

That's the problem I have in this case. The dead girl absolutely WAS a deadly threat here, but Progressive Jones Apr 2021 #38

And didn't anyone notice wryter2000 Apr 2021 #45

And if he had killed the wan in pink, people would be bending over backwards StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #64

Maybe she smoked a little joint once n/t wryter2000 Apr 2021 #70

If she had, we would surely hear all about it StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #71

But he didn't kill the wrong one, did he? Treefrog Apr 2021 #76

He got lucky wryter2000 Apr 2021 #79

Tasers have a stupidly high failure rate. Calista241 Apr 2021 #67

KNR niyad Apr 2021 #5

timeline of support/oppose BLM 2017 to present KatK Apr 2021 #6

K&R Solly Mack Apr 2021 #8

Whatever. Goodheart Apr 2021 #9

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I don't see how accusing me of untrustworthiness is productive Goodheart Apr 2021 #17

It is insulting. The idea which has touted on this forum of late is all white people are racist... Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #19

It's a manipulation tactic. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #27

Huh? jaxexpat Apr 2021 #32

It isn't about you. cate94 Apr 2021 #54

Thanks for the word salad. Goodheart Apr 2021 #56

uh ... electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #58

+1000 this is the truth and you put it so well. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #20

This is illustrated every day Bettie Apr 2021 #10

Thank you! StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #13

What, exactly, is illustrated every day? Goodheart Apr 2021 #21

For a lot of white people Bettie Apr 2021 #22

That's simply slanderous Goodheart Apr 2021 #26

And when any person of color criticizes any white person for being racially insensitive or racist StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #28

"Our great white saviors"? REALLY? Goodheart Apr 2021 #31

Some Wypipo make that necessary. /nt tonedevil Apr 2021 #40

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I've learned to pretty much tolerate uncomfortableness... electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #61

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LOL. Yeah, that 'tude will win allies. SMC22307 Apr 2021 #84

We have no problem winning allies StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #86

Preach, sister wryter2000 Apr 2021 #46

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+1 betsuni Apr 2021 #66

Where!? Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #29

After the Trayvon Martin murder I saw so many comments from white people like betsuni Apr 2021 #65

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Oh yeah, "we don't know what happened before the video started." betsuni Apr 2021 #85

Oh well... Devil Child Apr 2021 #14

I personally am sick of this sort of rhetoric. Don't trust anyone, and do it yourself... and see it Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #18

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Nothing you or anyone else posts will drive me away. I know that we must end institutional racism Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #36

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OK. /nt tonedevil Apr 2021 #50

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"attempting to reach a mutual understanding but maybe that's too last century." Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #81

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Yes, I am StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #87

Your reading comprehension needs some work, I'm afraid. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #88

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Some of your comments come across as, Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #72

Care to respond to the OP? StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #73

Why can't it be both? N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #74

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