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Ron Green

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52. One Risk Pool is a Health Care System.

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:35 PM

Apr 2021

Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme. We have enough investment schemes in this country; we need a health care system.

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New proposal to lower Medicare age to 50 could be a lifeline to millions [View all] ansible Apr 2021 OP

Why not offer it to everybody? Auggie Apr 2021 #1

Well, for one thing the Republicans both emptied our treasury and Hortensis Apr 2021 #13

Because retired old Republicans on Medicare are convinced IronLionZion Apr 2021 #29

Because it will not pass. I'm not sure 50 will pass, but I think 55 will. SMC22307 Apr 2021 #36

I know many people who would have retired earlier if not for health insurance. CrispyQ Apr 2021 #2

YES AND THE OTHER HALF OF THAT EQUATION IS THAT IT WOULD OPEN THOUSAND OF JOBS...... usaf-vet Apr 2021 #22

Yes, and offering it to self employed people would be huge too Unwind Your Mind Apr 2021 #26

For this, but I'm not so sure it's going to be at a price people can afford. Hoyt Apr 2021 #3

I am not sure many appreciate that Medicare is not free. It was designed so people pay into it JohnSJ Apr 2021 #5

Exactly. The buy-in would essentially be a Public Option. But it won't be as cheap as people think. Hoyt Apr 2021 #6

You are right JohnSJ Apr 2021 #7

Yup. In reality, the "lifeline" for many without coverage would Hortensis Apr 2021 #55

Healthcare costs are less for people under 65. This will be factored in. Politicub Apr 2021 #8

Still unlikely people 50 will be able to enroll in Medicare for substantially less Hoyt Apr 2021 #9

If it is means tested then the Part B premium would be zero SoonerPride Apr 2021 #11

Absolutely. drray23 Apr 2021 #14

I agree. According to the article, people are waiting for tests and treatments, Politicub Apr 2021 #15

That's the point, lower income people already have Medicaid or zero premium ACA. Won't be a change. Hoyt Apr 2021 #16

If they are still employed, the employer can pay the Part B premium SoonerPride Apr 2021 #18

Do you think the Part B premium for people who haven't paid into the system until age 65 Hoyt Apr 2021 #21

Part A is free if you have paid 40 quarters of taxes. Not to age 65. SoonerPride Apr 2021 #24

It is for disabled and those 65. Don't think it will be "free" for those under 65 if buyin enacted. Hoyt Apr 2021 #28

That is what Medicaid is for. JohnSJ Apr 2021 #19

Of course not all states expanded Medicaid to everyone. SoonerPride Apr 2021 #20

If you are referring to Texas in your last two sentences, unfortunately I believe that Texas is the JohnSJ Apr 2021 #25

You are probably correct, however there is of course a massive advantage drray23 Apr 2021 #12

You are right about insurance tied to employment. But, ACA and COBRA give one protection now if you Hoyt Apr 2021 #17

You're assuming the ACA will be there in the future. Rs are determined to eradicate it Arazi Apr 2021 #33

If Cobra is too expensive, a Medicare buyin will be too much for 70% Hoyt Apr 2021 #35

'a Medicare buyin will be too much for 70%' speak easy Apr 2021 #40

Yes, look at what a young disabled person pays when they haven't worked Hoyt Apr 2021 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy Apr 2021 #47

10 years ago, I was offered COBRA at $890/month Arazi Apr 2021 #51

If you've paid taxes all the years to qualify for zero premium Part A, $148 Part B, savings on Hoyt Apr 2021 #54

It's still going to be FAR cheaper Arazi Apr 2021 #56

Employer health insurance jonstl08 Apr 2021 #4

Most allow you to keep private as a supplemental DenaliDemocrat Apr 2021 #10

Quite a few large corporations do that, and as you said it takes the place of a Medi-gap JohnSJ Apr 2021 #23

They really need to be thinking about the millions... OneGrassRoot Apr 2021 #27

someone who is unemployed at age 50 is likely unemployable DBoon Apr 2021 #30

Not true. I have had 3 jobs since I was 50. Tommymac Apr 2021 #37

You personal experience, no matter how noteworthy is only a sample size of one DBoon Apr 2021 #57

sorry but thats nonsense. drray23 Apr 2021 #58

No it is not nonsense DBoon Apr 2021 #59

Hurry! The GOP is determined to eradicate the ACA Arazi Apr 2021 #31

Lowering the Medicare Age Aviation91 Apr 2021 #32

okat, so you think Medicare is good well speaknow Apr 2021 #34

Um, it is way cheaper then private insurance. Tommymac Apr 2021 #39

We know that. SMC22307 Apr 2021 #42

My husband and I are each paying $145 a month for Medicare. marie999 Apr 2021 #38

I think so Unwind Your Mind Apr 2021 #60

Of course it is not free. I wish folks would stop acting like that is a surprise. Scalded Nun Apr 2021 #41

Easily paid for in just a couple of easy steps, if not blocked by Manchin JT45242 Apr 2021 #43

The cost of lowering the age to 50 isn't going to be quite as great as the right screams about. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #44

Treating the Symptom Not the Problem modrepub Apr 2021 #45

It would actually help the problem kcr Apr 2021 #53

medicare for all pamdb Apr 2021 #48

Will save businesses quite a bit and encourage them to hang on to older workers--good for economy andym Apr 2021 #49

It should have been lowered to 55 decades ago Warpy Apr 2021 #50

One Risk Pool is a Health Care System. Ron Green Apr 2021 #52