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In reply to the discussion: Carville was right. Here's why it doesn't matter [View all]maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)50. Carville wasn't right. He doesn't know what "woke" means.
If he point is "don't use words white people don't understand, it alienates them", then fine. That's a fair point. White people get their feewings hurt really easily.
"Woke" is not "Faculty Lounge" talk. It's Af-Am Vernacular. Hudie Ledbetter used it in a song in 1938.
None of the stuff you mention has anything to do with being "woke". "Woke" means aware, conscious. Aware and conscious of racial injustice.
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I didn't say these voters hate Black and Brown voters, so let's smack that strawman down right away
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#26
In my view, the most important thing that people like Carville and other white progressives can do
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#37
With all due rrespect, the responsibility for explaining "wokefullness" to white working class voter
Beastly Boy
Apr 2021
#41
Not sure how you got from my posts that I want to disenfranchise anyone because they're white
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#96
When we're told we need to abandon weakness because moderate white voters don't like it
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#21
Is it any more divisive than trying to police how many black people speak about issues? n/t
Humanist_Activist
May 2021
#91
He's a politician, and cops aren't even in the top 20 of the most dangerous jobs in the country...
Humanist_Activist
May 2021
#104
When that POV is based on lack of knowledge, and just unjustified grievances, hell yes! n/t
Humanist_Activist
May 2021
#92
There's a difference between fighting to get their vote and kicking the base to the curb in order to
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#16
Telling Black and Brown voters to abandon their approach ro appease white voters isn't "balance"
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#29
How are they incorrect, he's literally whitesplaining, trying to police what Black people say...
Humanist_Activist
May 2021
#90
I'm not mixing up terms, I'm covering the bases of what the term "woke" has come to mean
Silent3
May 2021
#124
Follow Carville's 'advice' to a 'T' and we run the party right into the ground
Celerity
Apr 2021
#12
So you would exclude suburban Jews, Hispanics, and Asians from the democratic party
cinematicdiversions
Apr 2021
#22
The Democratic Party's future is Black, Brown, Urban, LGBTQIA... I don't agree with that
In It to Win It
Apr 2021
#32
I am a P.O.C. that dislikes and tries to avoid the term P.O.C. as well as Latinx, etc.
Nexus2
Apr 2021
#39
I have always wondered why People of Color is less offensive than colored people.
milestogo
May 2021
#89
That's the thing. It soumds like there are two groups of humans: White people and -everything- else
Nexus2
May 2021
#126
climate change denying pickup truck drivers aren't going to abandon them for mass transit.
BGBD
Apr 2021
#43
Personally, i don't think that's enough for us to win elections in the near term.
Calista241
Apr 2021
#45
I think you've got the correct answer!!! And, don't fall for the bait
Laura PourMeADrink
May 2021
#118
Of course Carville doesn't know what "woke" means! That was his entire point.
Beastly Boy
Apr 2021
#57
I find the "academic jargon" to be a version of "they're so elitist" reverse classicism that
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#64
There are PLENTY of white people who DO understand it. They should explain it to other white people
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#71
You or I speaking our minds and sharing views on DU is expressing an opinion
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#75
Terrific. In this case, Carville gets the entirety of your benefit of doubt.
Beastly Boy
May 2021
#80
A lot of black and brown people don't want to be 'educated' by white saviors.
redqueen
May 2021
#108
What? Who said anything about Black and Brown people being educated by white people?
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#110
That's not what Carville said. He said "Wokeness is the problem and everyone knows it"
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#112
You really need to pay attention to the topic of conversation if you're going to join in
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#116
Context is important. That's why I quoted the whole quote that you left out
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#62
superb rebuttal, and I agree, he is not just whingeing on about the word 'woke' he has
Celerity
May 2021
#63
I am afraid you are giving Carville too much credit and reading too deeply into his mind.
Beastly Boy
May 2021
#67
Not a good analogy. Red lights are a thing not an approach or a principle
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#76
Most (80% or so) DEMS I know in the real world, not online social media warriors HATE "wokeness"
krawhitham
May 2021
#79