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In reply to the discussion: Court orders upstate woman to remove Confederate flag or risk custody of multi racial child [View all]
LeftInTX
(34,303 posts)50. Agree!
From what I'm reading, it sounds like the mom will remove the rock....
But there could be a larger back story. And well, divorce is divorce and this child custody case sounds contentious. I assume the father brought up the rock...The child's attorney states says she moved there recently, but this child custody case has been going on since 2018...And was the rock there in 2018?
I wouldn't quite call this a "click bait" story, but it is a story without alot of background info. If there had been another object involved, such as a physical hazard on the property, this article would not be appearing in the media.
There needs to be a consensus about what is in the child's best interest, this isn't necessarily about free speech. (Although people reading it might interpret it that way)
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Court orders upstate woman to remove Confederate flag or risk custody of multi racial child [View all]
Demovictory9
May 2021
OP
Did you know that children have rights too? They're not like pets, which are considered property.
Towlie
May 2021
#9
ok. I'm wrong. U.S. Citizens are free to hate and teach their children to hate
msfiddlestix
May 2021
#129
Thank you as well for fighting the good fight in this thread and others. I enjoy your posts.
Jedi Guy
May 2021
#143
Your tarnished prism is no excuse for your embrace of tyranny disguised as virtue.
Jedi Guy
May 2021
#138
Yes, tyranny. Muzzling other people because you don't like their views is tyranny, full stop.
Jedi Guy
May 2021
#151
Speech that promotes violence is already proscribed and not protected by the First Amendment.
Jedi Guy
May 2021
#176
It's worked out great so far for me in my 74 years of being on planet Earth.
MarineCombatEngineer
May 2021
#137
Normal Americans don't want shit like that displayed in their neighborhood. No right is absolute. nt
Progressive Jones
May 2021
#13
If the child were Jewish and they had a swastika painted on the front door, would you think
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#15
You, or the state, don't get to decide what is or isn't hate speech, that's the whole point.
BGBD
May 2021
#35
This is exactly what the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals just ruled on.
MarineCombatEngineer
May 2021
#92
This ruling will have absolutely no impact on this case for more than one reason
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#104
This is false, the state ... DOES ... get to decided what hate speech is and does it when there's
uponit7771
May 2021
#94
... I did and in the face of violence against a minority the state **CAN** deem speech ...
uponit7771
May 2021
#97
Not trying to tell you what to do. Just trying to educate you about law you seem not to understand
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#115
Some folks here are revealing a lot more about their attitudes on race than they realize
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#108
"I'm not allowed to keep my child if somebody doesn't like my speech? Whoa!"
RegularJam
May 2021
#63
Then point me to them taking her child. The rock is still there, from what we know.
RegularJam
May 2021
#68
It's always amusing to watch non-lawyers with no training in legal or constitutional interpretation
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#72
But the jump to defend the right to display the Confederate flag is very telling
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#78
I'm confident that you are aware freedom of speech has more than two elements.
RegularJam
May 2021
#66
Yeah and it is not about free speech either...people don't understand what free speech means.
Demsrule86
May 2021
#146
The First Amendment is not a primary consideration in child custody cases
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#160
I'm a grown woman, and the sight of Confederate flag provokes a visceral reaction of fear in me
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#80
If this child were half Jewish, descended from Holocaust survivors and this were a swastika
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#51
If a black man "calling his son that" put himself in a position he is standing in front of...
Hassin Bin Sober
May 2021
#53
Is that true? I'm not aware of any law that says Confederate flags are hate speech
Takket
May 2021
#34
No law states that any particular acts, symbols, or words are hate speech
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#43
Thank you for helping to articulate what I failed miserably to accomplish.
msfiddlestix
May 2021
#86
You may care about the First Amendment, but you don't seem to understand it
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#32
Supporting NAMBLA is also protected speech. You gonna turn a kid over to a NAMBLA supporter?
Hassin Bin Sober
May 2021
#100
If a court determines that exposing the child to those comments is harmful to them
StarfishSaver
May 2021
#167
Not true...they can't arrest her but they can factor it into a custody hearing.
Demsrule86
May 2021
#147
I'm pretty much a First Amendment absolutist except when it comes to swastikas & the Loser's Flag
GoneOffShore
May 2021
#16