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mstinamotorcity2

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79. They do this to

Mon Oct 15, 2012, 03:57 PM

Oct 2012

confuse the Voter!!!!We will have our Victory on Nov.6,2012. That is when members of the Democratic Party will confuse Republicans. We will be out like a blanket at one of their so called picnics lol.I have friends who have their ballots and are fired up and ready to go. They want to do it after the debate on Tuesday, Oct.16. To give him a debate surge. I will do mine after next debate. For my participation on debate surge. And my husband is doing same. And all my children are actually going to the polls and cast their ballot.My sisters and brother in laws and really my whole family is doing 235 votes to check in for this President. We are getting early votes and we are going to put enogh people out there until it is clear that Our President has retained his seat in office. Sorry Mr. Romney, the Potus Chair is occupied.lol

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Things are about to get a whole lot tougher for Nate Silver [View all] grantcart Oct 2012 OP

The G.O.P. polling strategy is so obvious that it discredits any commentater who falls for it. Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #1

But the problem is - they ARE falling for it. calimary Oct 2012 #76

What are you suggesting? If the Dems try to beat them at the hypnotic hoodwinking game anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #89

Are there any signs that the MSM is picking up on this? Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #2

They know all about it. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #28

They were clearly chomping at the bit for more of a horse race to this thing. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #58

Neither eyeballs nor viewership are primary tavalon Oct 2012 #82

Wow Nate. DURHAM D Oct 2012 #3

Especially when they made a miraculous 500 calls in Pennsylvania in just a couple of hours. grantcart Oct 2012 #6

If Nate doesn't fix his model/calculations DURHAM D Oct 2012 #11

Times owned brush Oct 2012 #62

I wouldn't be too sure of that. n/t AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #83

you mean the current model/calculations that have Obama winning? krawhitham Oct 2012 #84

"you all"? DURHAM D Oct 2012 #85

Yep krawhitham Oct 2012 #88

Get real. Two weeks ago the pollsters suddenly switched from Registered Voters (RVs) to.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #114

What happened in 2010? krawhitham Oct 2012 #120

Wow. Just wow. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #121

Oh, for heaven's sake! MissMarple Oct 2012 #91

Your post makes absolutely no sense as regards DURHAM D Oct 2012 #99

Gravis had Romney up 57-40 among African-Americans in CO. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #21

That certainly smells. That simply can't be correct. yardwork Oct 2012 #54

Agreed. Either a ridiculously small sample, HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #67

That seems impossible, but... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #103

Denver and Colorado Springs are home to most of Colorado's African-American population jayschool Oct 2012 #122

Does Bias in Polling Work Both Ways: Right AND Left? SkepticMetric Oct 2012 #4

thanks so much for dropping by, enjoy your stay. grantcart Oct 2012 #8

You should get educated about what goes on here in DU. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #14

That is a big reason I am here. old guy Oct 2012 #34

Liberal does not mean 'anything that is not conservative'. Marr Oct 2012 #15

In North Idaho liberal means "anything to the left of me" jmowreader Oct 2012 #40

You should have. Chan790 Oct 2012 #94

The boss refuses to run death panel letters jmowreader Oct 2012 #96

Name 6 major Democratic poling firms that are cited in the MSM. now... progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #33

Concern noted. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #115

We're working on it, man, we're working on it jsmirman Oct 2012 #5

Sites like electoral-vote.com BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #7

Agree with you...Nate needs to make some choices about the polls he keeps.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #9

Ask yourself a question about nate graham4anything Oct 2012 #10

He gained (and will retain) his fame by being accurate hack89 Oct 2012 #16

^^^ THIS ^^^ (n/t) MadrasT Oct 2012 #17

however...there is a truism about rasmussen-(though its sometimes hard to find the proof) graham4anything Oct 2012 #19

Everyone nailed the 2008 race. It really wasn't that hard. Dawgs Oct 2012 #27

To this degree of accuracy? hack89 Oct 2012 #45

So did the RCP average of state polls. Dawgs Oct 2012 #72

OK. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #73

Everyone knew Obama would win, but Silver was almost perfect. boxman15 Oct 2012 #71

Anyone can nail it if they know what the outcome will be. zeemike Oct 2012 #31

So Obama won by rigging the elections? hack89 Oct 2012 #47

No he won by massive voter turnout. zeemike Oct 2012 #126

Pure luck. nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #35

He correctly predicted the winner of 49 of 50 states and every Senate race hack89 Oct 2012 #48

I'm a fan of Nate's BainsBane Oct 2012 #92

i believe that Nate's obstacle is that he made a model that was based grantcart Oct 2012 #23

I'd like to offer a correction to that statement which I believe is significant. gkhouston Oct 2012 #41

Agree 100% with your observations. DURHAM D Oct 2012 #56

Why do you think the polls have changed so much in 4 years? hack89 Oct 2012 #50

NO WE DON"t==there are 4 to 8 brand new companies that only started after aggregates blocked Ras graham4anything Oct 2012 #55

And Nate weighs new polls to give them less influence on the results hack89 Oct 2012 #57

Obama is now where he was before the debate. Mitt & Glove gained nothing but statistical noise graham4anything Oct 2012 #59

And your expertise in polling is what exactly? hack89 Oct 2012 #60

Who was better? Willie Mays or Derek Jeter? I rest my case. (Willie of course). graham4anything Oct 2012 #61

This also happened during the Wisconsin recalls forthemiddle Oct 2012 #68

The polls for the Wisconsin recall were pretty accurate. hack89 Oct 2012 #70

you don't have the facts grantcart Oct 2012 #64

Of the competitive states on Nate's site .. hack89 Oct 2012 #69

Let's stick with your first point grantcart Oct 2012 #93

So agreeing with Nate Silver = "die hard Republican"? Ok. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #102

So is Nate Silver merely incompetent or is it something more nefarious? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #105

As I stated clearly before Nate's model was designed based on baseball which had no grantcart Oct 2012 #106

Time will tell - I suspect Nate will nail it once again. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #108

You keep saying there were more polls available in 2008 hack89 Oct 2012 #109

If you are not aware of the fact that in 2008 that there was the most extensive primary campaign in grantcart Oct 2012 #110

So you have no actual evidence? hack89 Oct 2012 #111

Sorry, but you have to be much more polite to a respected DU poster.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #116

How do I prove a negative? hack89 Oct 2012 #117

And it was not insulting on his part hack89 Oct 2012 #118

Maybe the Dems should start a polling company that removes Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #12

Grantcart - Sugarcoated Oct 2012 #13

yes conversations are going on by other DUers. We expect something to be ublished by Thus. grantcart Oct 2012 #24

That's great news! dchill Oct 2012 #63

I have David Corn's private email addy if you need it. nt grasswire Oct 2012 #66

We just might, for sure jsmirman Oct 2012 #98

Go Grantcart! Force him to be real! n/t BlueToTheBone Oct 2012 #18

Why don't we just get to the heart of it.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #20

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #22

I'm just not sure I'm going to vote this time around. AlbertCat Oct 2012 #30

I'm going to assume you are male OldHippieChick Oct 2012 #78

reversal of Roe v. Wade. AlbertCat Oct 2012 #81

"if you vote"??? Really, you like Romney that much? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #36

Anyone who does not vote is in no position to judge who is 'smart'. Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #38

"you smart DU people"? Good thing you're not one of us, then. randome Oct 2012 #39

Zorro has just become a zombie. Surya Gayatri Oct 2012 #42

here's a fun thing rtracey Oct 2012 #25

Polling has become a political False Flag operation. Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #26

He had a bit of critique for Gravis today: mzmolly Oct 2012 #29

That's because Kaplan's "polls" appear to be made up out of whole cloth. MuhkRahker Oct 2012 #124

I agree. mzmolly Oct 2012 #125

Stop making sense! FailureToCommunicate Oct 2012 #32

The republics are just trying to make it seem confused so they can steal ThomThom Oct 2012 #37

Could very well be... defacto7 Oct 2012 #43

I find Nate Silver's columns to be very interesting... however... Time for change Oct 2012 #44

It is a drawback that he is strictly a numbers guy & admitted that he doesn't like politics Lex Oct 2012 #46

i believe Nate did a piece on voter suppression grantcart Oct 2012 #49

MORE TWO SENSES FROM LAYKOFF HowHasItComeToThis Oct 2012 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #97

I've Been Inundated Ccarmona Oct 2012 #52

Excellent OP. Our side needs to wake up and smell the coffee. yardwork Oct 2012 #53

grantcart: Raine1967 Oct 2012 #65

Grantcart did you send info to Nate? flamingdem Oct 2012 #75

Nate Silver has a rapidly closing window of opportunity Denzil_DC Oct 2012 #74

YOu heard that Rob Portman was talking today about Romney doing it without Ohio didn't you? graham4anything Oct 2012 #77

They do this to mstinamotorcity2 Oct 2012 #79

Please check this out - DURHAM D Oct 2012 #80

I'd like to see a Michael Moore exposé on the corruption and pundit-abuse of polling. anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #86

I think Nate has been punked. Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #87

Silver's model does rate polls BainsBane Oct 2012 #90

Even as the more-obviously dodgy polls are weeded out, anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #95

The GOP is trying to make it look close. They want to steal the election without having a revolution judesedit Oct 2012 #100

Gravis, ARG, Purple Strategies, WeAskAmerica and Rasmussen 68 Rex Oct 2012 #101

Opinion polling is all fatally flawed Anthony McCarthy Oct 2012 #104

But seldom is it an outright fraud by known con people with previous citations by the FCC. grantcart Oct 2012 #107

Yep....this year has been very bad.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #112

I think Nate is going to do just fine. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #113

grantcart you make statistics sound so sexy!!!!!! psychmommy Oct 2012 #119

repubinrecovery ddougherty Oct 2012 #123

Thanks. +1. Nt Mc Mike Oct 2012 #127