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92. If there are problems in the region it is because of European Countries & the US

Wed May 19, 2021, 12:44 AM

May 2021

Monarchs like the House of Saud were backed by the British from the beginning the US allied with them during WW2 and every President since because of OIL. In fact most there in the region had a favorable impression of the US prior to that because they didn't meddle there like the British and other European countries.

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Is it any wonder why Palestinians are upset with Israel? [View all] ProudMNDemocrat May 2021 OP

The 1949-1967 map is mislabled hack89 May 2021 #1

If one accepts your argument, guillaumeb May 2021 #3

Jordan renounced their formal annexation of the West Bank in 1988 hack89 May 2021 #5

Address my second point. guillaumeb May 2021 #8

I concede that point. The Fourth Geneva Convention is pretty clear. hack89 May 2021 #16

Which means that this problem will continue. guillaumeb May 2021 #40

I don't see a happy ending to all of this hack89 May 2021 #45

yes. WW111. Not kidding Roc2020 May 2021 #47

Hamas loves to reset the clock every 10-15 years. joshcryer May 2021 #81

Whose land it is.. I saw a program years ago about a Palestian farmer who olive groves had been LiberalArkie May 2021 #52

Not really true, Jews and Christians inhabited those lands until... joshcryer May 2021 #83

Could you tell me where to find the International Law you're mentioning? Decoy of Fenris May 2021 #24

A great question. guillaumeb May 2021 #106

It's a great help, thank you. Decoy of Fenris May 2021 #117

I agree with the idea that neither of us have an answer. guillaumeb May 2021 #123

Jordan wasn't Jordan it was the Ottoman empire. joshcryer May 2021 #84

And notice how disconnected all the "Palestinian" areas are. guillaumeb May 2021 #2

Before the Intifata the Palestinians routinely traveled and worked in Israel hack89 May 2021 #7

They were treated as second class citizens. guillaumeb May 2021 #9

Bad things happen in wars. hack89 May 2021 #17

The next best choice would be a wnylib May 2021 #38

This narrative ignores decades of recalcitrance and rejectionism by Palestinian leadership tritsofme May 2021 #86

I remember Clinton's work on that peace wnylib May 2021 #93

Oh yes, the mere presence of Jews at their holiest site was an enormous provocation. tritsofme May 2021 #103

Nonsense hyperbole to claim wnylib May 2021 #107

Sharon never claimed the Temple Mount as only for Jews. Mosby May 2021 #118

There are studies on the Gaza Strip AZProgressive May 2021 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby May 2021 #122

They are still treated as second class citizens. joshcryer May 2021 #79

True. eom guillaumeb May 2021 #104

What about the refugee camps in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan? Mosby May 2021 #120

Because the Arab League says that they're not allowed it. joshcryer May 2021 #129

Divide and conquer. 2naSalit May 2021 #21

Agreed. eom guillaumeb May 2021 #41

Relabel the white areas "South Africa" SCantiGOP May 2021 #51

Exactly. eom guillaumeb May 2021 #57

Yes it will Bettie May 2021 #128

Considering that Palestine govt has some of the worst human rights laws, Budi May 2021 #4

Diversion, and whataboutism. eom guillaumeb May 2021 #12

No its not. Budi May 2021 #25

I saw a 6 year old girl crawl from under the rubble of an Israeli air strike AZProgressive May 2021 #90

Yeah, there is massive anti-Palestinian racism in Israel, stoked on by the likes of Netanyahu LymphocyteLover May 2021 #97

so that justifies Israel killing Palestinian civilians in huge and in ordinate numbers... got it LymphocyteLover May 2021 #96

I refuse to support a govt who suppressed it's own people, and allows a terrorist group, Budi May 2021 #109

We hear about Hamas all the time and plenty of Republicans complain about them LymphocyteLover May 2021 #113

Israel loves HAMAS??? You so sure of that are you? Budi May 2021 #114

Got it-- LymphocyteLover May 2021 #130

It's always about land malaise May 2021 #6

Land, and power. guillaumeb May 2021 #10

Europe as well malaise May 2021 #13

Guilt over their inaction in 1937 and forward? eom guillaumeb May 2021 #15

Lebensraum Martin Eden May 2021 #18

Judenfrei tritsofme May 2021 #75

Touche' Martin Eden May 2021 #77

To be fair sarisataka May 2021 #11

This is a legacy of colonialism. guillaumeb May 2021 #14

True, however we would have to go back sarisataka May 2021 #20

K & R Budi May 2021 #26

"It goes back further in time then some are willing to consider." agree.. Who owned what, when? mitch96 May 2021 #33

Jfc. 🙄 Budi May 2021 #34

Excellent points. guillaumeb May 2021 #43

Nearly the entire world structure dianaredwing May 2021 #31

There were jews living there also, going back 3500 years Mosby May 2021 #36

And? guillaumeb May 2021 #44

There were Homo erectus living there nearly 2,000,000 years ago. Crunchy Frog May 2021 #68

Then why do we respect indigenous rights at all? Mosby May 2021 #69

Sykes-Picot Agreement joshcryer May 2021 #82

Bull mikeysnot May 2021 #22

Well if Indiana Jones went to Palestine sarisataka May 2021 #28

Sooooo a nation needs a president? mikeysnot May 2021 #78

We could toss out religion and go back multigraincracker May 2021 #35

Yeah, and here's the flag Mosby May 2021 #37

"To be fair", there was no official country called "Native America" either... Progressive Lawyer May 2021 #48

I'm sorry, sarisataka May 2021 #50

Forgiveness denied. Progressive Lawyer May 2021 #62

+1, uponit7771 May 2021 #58

+1 Bettie May 2021 #59

Excellent point. IsItJustMe May 2021 #74

My thoughts DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 #85

If You Can - Get Your Hands On The December 1938 Issue Of National Geographic Magazine..... global1 May 2021 #19

+1 2naSalit May 2021 #23

It was the British that revived the Palestinian name hack89 May 2021 #27

K & R Thank You! Budi May 2021 #29

The British really fucked it up. joshcryer May 2021 #88

Or go further back and it was British, and Ottoman empire IronLionZion May 2021 #30

"Claims to any of the land all depends on how far back in time people want to go." DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 #105

People have migrated a hell of a lot, which complicates things IronLionZion May 2021 #111

These people will be at war with each other Mr.Bill May 2021 #32

Netanyahu expelled Palestinians from their homes to make way for Jewish settlers. SunSeeker May 2021 #39

Ethnic cleansing, do you mean? 2naSalit May 2021 #63

Yep. nt SunSeeker May 2021 #67

The maps are propaganda Mosby May 2021 #42

The only solution is that the Palestinians are going to need their own sovereign state. Volaris May 2021 #46

That's the only humane solution. But it won't happen. SunSeeker May 2021 #54

I know it wont happen. But it's still the correct thing to call for. Volaris May 2021 #56

This seems familiar Soxderrube May 2021 #49

It was one stupid idea to put Israel in the middle of Muslim countries. The Jungle 1 May 2021 #53

+1 2naSalit May 2021 #65

+1,000,000!!! SheltieLover May 2021 #66

There were actual discussions in the 40s SCantiGOP May 2021 #71

Jews were the largest group in Jerusalem by the 1870s tritsofme May 2021 #76

Zionism demanded it. joshcryer May 2021 #80

Why not have given them Las Vegas or Palm Springs? DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 #87

It wasn't just put there . It was already a place where Jews and Arabs had been living JI7 May 2021 #91

Stunned by the tone-deafness of such a statement Tarc May 2021 #100

I am sorry you feel that way. The Jungle 1 May 2021 #108

There are no elections in the West Bank because Mahmoud Abbas called them off DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 #115

The West Bank and Gaza are not part of Israel Mosby May 2021 #116

17% of physicians and 14% of nurses in Israel are Arab. DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 #119

You forgot to cite the source of your map. Beastly Boy May 2021 #55

Thank You For Hunting That Up, Sir The Magistrate May 2021 #64

IS THERE A HAMAS EQUIVALENT TO THAT? WiseElder May 2021 #60

Your point is? The OP says PALESTINIANS, not Hamas. maxsolomon May 2021 #70

You are exactly right SCantiGOP May 2021 #72

One Small Point, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2021 #61

I can't think of any government 48656c6c6f20 May 2021 #73

If there are problems in the region it is because of European Countries & the US AZProgressive May 2021 #92

Frequently overlooked. /nt tonedevil May 2021 #94

The British gave away Palestine to the Hashemites Mosby May 2021 #125

I was mainly referring to Saudi Arabia AZProgressive May 2021 #126

Post removed Post removed May 2021 #95

I'm just wondering how many Palestinians have to die for the world to care enough to do something LymphocyteLover May 2021 #98

A lot more people died in Syria in a shorter time frame and the world did nothing hack89 May 2021 #110

true... I guess it's just that this has been going on so long... LymphocyteLover May 2021 #112

I criticize Assad a lot AZProgressive May 2021 #127

Native Americans were considered much the same as Palestinians are now Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #99

The events of today are what they are, there are no do-overs or mulligans Tarc May 2021 #101

Yeah well... PCIntern May 2021 #121

Goes back farther than that. AngryOldDem May 2021 #124

The Palestinian/Isreali map is a real eye opener. nt oasis May 2021 #131