I want to give a shout out to ProSense.

[jsmirman]

187. The bills themselves are referred to as "horse slaughter bills"

so I think it may be a safe bet that you're not quite as familiar with this topic as I am.

I tried - strenuously and extensively - to make my position clear and well-explained in the threads following the removal of the crucial de-funding measure in the Farm Bill. I believe my points made plenty of sense and were quite convincing. As I said, it is easy to find those threads. I have no desire to reopen the issue as the conversation was taken as far as it could go already. I said most of what I have to say on the issue. I'm not sure if you're asking for more - if you are, with what I've already made available, I wouldn't quite understand why you would make such a request.

It's *your* opinion that "there are only facts, analysis, analogies and logic" - it's my opinion that when after one post on the topic I was derided as being an anti-Obama disruptor/troll/bearer of ulterior motives - particularly when I am someone who gave to and sacrificed deeply for the last campaign, that something quite different from "facts, (honest) analysis, analogies and logic" is being employed.

Questioning someone's motives and not their message is about as far from "clear reasoning" as you can get, in my opinion. And is pretty jack-booted, if you ask me. And there was no demolishing that took place in those threads - I will opine as to that.