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JohnSJ

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31. I have a plug in Honda clarity where I can go 40 to 60 miles on pure battery before it switches

Wed May 19, 2021, 09:22 AM

May 2021

to the ICE. I would not feel comfortable going long distance with an all electric car at this time for multiple reasons.

When I am driving locally I have no need for gasoline, and could drive months on all electric.

I believe the Tesla warranty is 50000 miles or 8 years on the battery. A lot of people keep their cars 10 years or longer, so I would hope the battery would be viable for at least 10 year and 100000 miles, otherwise I think it will be cost prohibitive.

While I agree with your first hand experience and insights, I am skeptical that 10 years is realistic goal to stop all ICE production.

Also, I have questions if the batteries are recyclable, and what is the source of how the electricity for the charging infrastructure will be generated

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In 10 Years A Gas Powered Car Will Make As Much Sense As A Horse Drawn Carriage [View all] DanieRains May 2021 OP

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EXACTLY! nt Raine May 2021 #4

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A great deal can change in 10 years Buckeyeblue May 2021 #8

I don't disagree that much can and has changed in a decade Sherman A1 May 2021 #16

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Nice graphic... Wounded Bear May 2021 #40

Have you watched The Mitchell Family vs The Machines? GoneOffShore May 2021 #90

Never heard of it DFW May 2021 #91

It's also fun. GoneOffShore May 2021 #92

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I can plug mine in to a standard outlet MissB May 2021 #24

I have a plug in Honda clarity where I can go 40 to 60 miles on pure battery before it switches JohnSJ May 2021 #31

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In addition, the recharging stations have to have their electricity produced from some source JohnSJ May 2021 #34

Good points that I left out. Thank you. n/t totodeinhere May 2021 #75

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Only 63K?? That's amazing. SKKY May 2021 #93

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Here's a time travel paradox - Oneironaut May 2021 #99

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LOL, I love how all bombastic future "predictions" are always only "10 years away" Shanti Shanti Shanti May 2021 #35

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