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Hortensis

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5. "Organized retail crime." Sounds like it, contributed to by a perfect storm of
Fri May 21, 2021, 11:54 AM
May 2021

negative factors. Makes me wonder for the first time where the goods come from for a depressingly boring flea market we dropped by once. Discount "dollar store" under tarps by an interstate.

Fwiw, there's no evidence that increasing the felony threshhold is a significant factor; that's a typical ignorant assumption and RW notion that harsh penalties and school-to-prison pipelines reduce crime and stand between us and the abyss.

Other states increased the felony threshold for petty crimes, some to more than SF's $950. In TX it's $2500. Raising the misdemeanor-to-felony threshold has been studied, and it is not followed by increased crime. In SF, criminal misdemeanors are still crimes, and perps still go to jail. Break in and steal a Snickers or threaten or hurt anyone while grabbing a bottle of water and it's a felony.

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San Francisco's Shoplifting Surge [View all] Demovictory9 May 2021 OP
SF has become a hot mess. Dream Girl May 2021 #1
I've been there a few times, but not recently. It seems to have gone downhill, to put it mildly. Dial H For Hero May 2021 #3
I love SF, and hate to agree but.... eissa May 2021 #10
Homeless people need help not criticism. Elessar Zappa May 2021 #11
And there it is eissa May 2021 #12
Clean needles keep the Hepatitis rates down. maxsolomon May 2021 #14
Some of them are mired in their situation. Some of the do indeed criticism. I would invite you Dream Girl May 2021 #15
Sadly, some see SF as just a place eissa May 2021 #16
It's lost all its charm. I kind of blame the homeless advocates.Yep. That's about the size of it. Dream Girl May 2021 #18
"Then I went to Safeway next door for some groceries and I saw a man stuffing three bottles of wine" brooklynite May 2021 #32
Many of them DO need criticism and they refuse the help that is offered JI7 May 2021 #35
Interesting article on the causes of this. -nt CrispyQ May 2021 #2
Prop 47 working as expected Bonx May 2021 #4
"Organized retail crime." Sounds like it, contributed to by a perfect storm of Hortensis May 2021 #5
yup, its the lack of interest / effort in enforcement Amishman May 2021 #6
Me neither. We have friends and still take the L.A. Times, but... Hortensis May 2021 #8
They're renaming the high schools though. Priorities you know. jalan48 May 2021 #7
+1. "We don't need Walgreens. We use Amazon" dalton99a May 2021 #9
Interesting story. roamer65 May 2021 #13
It's an amazing city eissa May 2021 #17
That is very well stated. An accurate description of the city as it was 20 years ago. Dream Girl May 2021 #19
+1 dalton99a May 2021 #20
I lived there a little over 20 years ago for about 6 years and it was only bad in certain areas. smirkymonkey May 2021 #34
I live in Los Angeles but used to go to San Francisco every month or so Raine May 2021 #21
Los Angeles is rapidly becoming SF South. beaglelover May 2021 #23
Yes it is. I live in a suburb of Los Angeles along the coast Raine May 2021 #24
I lived in noho yrs ago..know it well Demovictory9 May 2021 #25
There seems to be criminal elements among this . This isn't homelessness like we usually think of it JI7 May 2021 #36
Been there 2 years ago. Rustyeye77 May 2021 #22
Seattle too Demovictory9 May 2021 #26
It's not just California. The homeless situation in Austin got out of control and caused a backlash dalton99a May 2021 #27
Don't be surprised if that happens in CA eissa May 2021 #30
It's a horrible situation Mz Pip May 2021 #28
"Outrage from the homeless advocates" eissa May 2021 #29
Are things really that bad in San Francisco? Nexus2 May 2021 #31
It's kind of hard to describe . The homeless situation is really bad JI7 May 2021 #33
it's happened all over california.. tent sleeping in urban areas (rather than off in the woods) Demovictory9 May 2021 #37
The right definitely exaggerates it eissa May 2021 #38
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