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Hippo_The_Pointer

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Sat May 22, 2021, 04:25 PM May 2021

Republican support and the role of declining church attendance [View all]

I had originally put the following in as a reply to someone else, but someone replied to my reply suggesting this would make a good original thread so here goes

Context - I'm trying to get a deeper understanding of the thought process within the Republican base. Granted that's a complex topic, but I'm trying to tease out of the tangles some insights that may help in developing improved engagement and communications strategies aimed at getting moderate Republicans to rethink if they want to continue to support a party that continues it's rightward march. In order to do that I'm trying to understand the thought process of the more moderate Republican voters and the context in which they live in.

One strand I've been looking into is a theory that is somewhat off the beaten track: The theory that the problem lies in the decline in Christianity and how different churches have responded to that.

Likely many DUers are aware that Christianity in the USA has been in decline for many years. The so called high-church (the well established traditional Christian denominations with highly structured liturgy) have seen significant decline in attendance since the 1980's. In response they have softened their doctrine in an attempt to make things more palatable to a broader audience (e.g. become more amenable to liberal social thinking - ordaining women, acceptance of gay marriage, etc). Presumably the hope was that that would stop the decline. It has not and attendance levels have continually dropped for the past 20 years.

The other main form of Christian church in the US is the evangelicals. They typically have less structure and only informal leadership at the national level. These churches are the ones that grew as the baby boomers entered their adult life in the 1970's on-wards. In the face of declining Christian numbers, the evangelicals have done the opposite of the high-church. Instead of softening their doctrine they have hardened things by clinging to the more 'traditional' values. No wedding cakes for you gay couples is a classic example.

It appears that the hardening may have worked - In the past 20 years the evangelicals have managed to keep their attendance numbers roughly stable. In part that has been done by attracting traditionalists away from high-church and into the evangelical church.

The problem is that the hardening sees the evangelicals decoupling from where mainstream society is moving. That growing gap has opened the door for the "longing for the past" syndrome that is the underpinning of the MAGA movement.

Recognizing 'the hardening' as a business opportunity the likes of Murdoch and Sinclair have been more than happy to feed it and sustain it. From there the GOP then see it as a voting block they can dominate. Foreign nations looking for influence are then more than happy to fund the GOP in the hope of gaining advantage should a republican president be elected.

Those external parties are then creating a bubble around the evangelical church. Every one watches the same news, listens to the same radio and socializes with each other. Those inside the bubble become increasingly cut off from the outside. From there craziness becomes more acceptable - As long as you hate the liberals you are a part of the team and even if you are a bit crazy at least you are not an 'outsider' (i.e. a liberal). From there we are nearly in cult territory or perhaps already in there.

To burst a bubble my feeling is that the bubble needs to be deeply understood and I'm making my own humble (and maybe misguided) little effort to do that Any thoughts on the role declining church attendance may be having on US society?

The thoughts of a rambling Hippo - The Hippo

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Evangelical church attendance is declining as well...and civil rights are human rights...any church Demsrule86 May 2021 #1
A schism Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #2
I am a Christian...(I try to behave but have a potty mouth!) Demsrule86 May 2021 #8
In agreement Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #13
believe it or not, you can believe all of those things without religion Skittles May 2021 #16
I agree Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #19
Of course you can. I happen to believe in Christ...and my church does much good too. Demsrule86 May 2021 #25
I don't think you're wrong. At all. My feeling is that religion is indeed part of the problem. But abqtommy May 2021 #3
Puching back against the hate preachers Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #5
how about just do unto others WITHOUT religion Skittles May 2021 #17
No one said religion was needed for behaving like a decent human being...but under the Demsrule86 May 2021 #26
lol Skittles May 2021 #29
UU Fellowships are growing. multigraincracker May 2021 #4
Better choices Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #6
It's time to call out Christians as misguided. As Walter Bauer's respected research showed, there Karadeniz May 2021 #7
The new schism Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #10
I personally find your post offensive. It is not yours nor anyone else's duty to call out anyone. Demsrule86 May 2021 #27
The feeling is mutual! Religion and its history should be understood. I do not apologize for Karadeniz May 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Karadeniz May 2021 #31
Was looking at one of those Yahoo click bait doc03 May 2021 #9
Making better choices Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #11
You know I respected Reverend Ike he said doc03 May 2021 #12
mesally 2 million? Skittles May 2021 #18
It just seemed funny they chose to put Al Sharpten on the list when everyone else was worth tens doc03 May 2021 #22
My mom used to send Joel money too Tree Lady May 2021 #20
My Mom only got SS she lived in a rent subsidized apartment. I took care of balancing her checking doc03 May 2021 #21
Feel same way I showed her articles Tree Lady May 2021 #24
Evangelicals believe that they are going to Heaven and everyone is going to Hell Maraya1969 May 2021 #14
Inside the bubble Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #15
But that is not true...you have to truly be repentant...and the Evangelicals often aren't. Demsrule86 May 2021 #28
I've know this for 30 years. It's what drove me from a moderate Republican to a liberal democrat. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #23
Confusing as there are two movements using the Fellowship label IbogaProject May 2021 #32
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