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ecstatic

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60. Bottom line: The origin is not settled

Mon May 24, 2021, 06:14 PM

May 2021

I don't understand why some people get so angry and tunnel-visioned when it comes to this important topic.

The more important point, at least for me, is that trump gutted the safeguards we had in place to quickly respond to deadly viruses both here and abroad. The entire world was depending on the US to prevent an epidemic from becoming a pandemic. I really hope those teams/agencies have been fully restored and funded.

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Sick Staff at Wuhan Lab Fuels Debate On Virus Origin [View all] applegrove May 2021 OP

Report from National Cancer Institute in Milan, Italy. roamer65 May 2021 #1

This Is Facinating WHITT May 2021 #3

That is stunning. NH Ethylene May 2021 #4

So just a coincidence that the Wuhan lab was researching Coronaviruses? WarGamer May 2021 #5

Yes thats apophenia - lots of studies for years FreeState May 2021 #9

Maybe, maybe not. WarGamer May 2021 #10

FINALLY - US top scientists write letter - "Investigaste orgins of Covid-19" - Science.Mag.org womanofthehills May 2021 #44

this is big... tyvm WarGamer May 2021 #56

It is quite a coincidence, if so. NH Ethylene May 2021 #16

You Seriously Think WHITT May 2021 #24

Post removed Post removed May 2021 #28

What truth? Scientists all over the world have been studying coronaviruses for years. yardwork May 2021 #39

And now - more labs than ever are studying coronaviruses womanofthehills May 2021 #52

How long after being exposed do antibodies FreeState May 2021 #6

Milan has a steady flow of workers coming to/from the Wuhan region because they work there WarGamer May 2021 #8

It was likely everywhere and mutated FreeState May 2021 #13

I remember my Uncle was sick AF at Christmas in 2019... WarGamer May 2021 #14

No one ever will know exactly where it started. roamer65 May 2021 #17

What treaties? There are no regulations on these labs womanofthehills May 2021 #27

.. roamer65 May 2021 #45

On paper only - the WHO researchers could not even get into the Wujan Lab womanofthehills May 2021 #49

My father, who died this past January at age 93, phylny May 2021 #36

1st, I'm sorry for you loss. WarGamer May 2021 #55

My mother was sicker than she's ever been in her life... r�is�n_dubh May 2021 #64

There was an unusual amount of severe "flu" among my high school kids late Nov./Dec. NH Ethylene May 2021 #19

interesting... thanks WarGamer May 2021 #22

I was sick Dec-Jan 2019-2020 5-6 weeks with worst flu of life Tree Lady May 2021 #59

That sounds horrific. If it was Covid, you're lucky to be alive. NH Ethylene May 2021 #61

I caught whatever I had on a Thanksgiving trip Tree Lady May 2021 #62

That's interesting that there is a strong Wuhan & Italy connection. NH Ethylene May 2021 #31

Were those samples handled properly, cross contaminated with more recent samples? Pobeka May 2021 #11

If you research online, you will see the Wujan lab had lab violations 2-3 yrs ago womanofthehills May 2021 #50

I read somewhere that they have a bunch of people Tree Lady May 2021 #26

Upthread someone mentioned the fashion industry. n/t OneGrassRoot May 2021 #38

Wuhan Lab WHITT May 2021 #2

Problem #1 WarGamer May 2021 #7

Post removed Post removed May 2021 #29

NIH funding is a Rand Paul conspiracy fantasy maxrandb May 2021 #42

Actually, the NIH did fund research in an around about way - NIH gave money to EcoHealth Alliance womanofthehills May 2021 #46

What about the infected bat? FakeNoose May 2021 #12

Actually, mostly, they do not. After being there for 12 years and living and traveling all over the AZLD4Candidate May 2021 #15

Forgive this devil's advocate question FakeNoose May 2021 #18

Wouldn't have to be eating the bat . . . . hatrack May 2021 #20

I just wrote downthread that the researcher janterry May 2021 #34

Bat guano is harvested in areas near wuhan mainer May 2021 #21

The Original Assumption WHITT May 2021 #23

The researcher I've been listening to said it was nearly impossible janterry May 2021 #33

OK that's a plausible explanation FakeNoose May 2021 #43

This past week top US Scientists asked the same question in a letter to Science top magazine womanofthehills May 2021 #48

Paul Graham noted some edits in VOX to Cover Their You-Know-What janterry May 2021 #65

And why did it take top US scientists until last week to speak up about how one sided the WHO womanofthehills May 2021 #51

Polio can be caught by eating something contaminated, but this virus usually caught thru the air womanofthehills May 2021 #53

Covid was Runing in october mshasta May 2021 #25

Traces of the virus were found in Barcelona waste water samples, early 2019 samples Ani Yun Wiya May 2021 #30

Wow! If true, it must have mutated over the months to become a deadly disease. NH Ethylene May 2021 #32

It's not deadly to all affected. LisaL May 2021 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Ani Yun Wiya May 2021 #40

Then there is this item about Brazillian waste water samples Ani Yun Wiya May 2021 #41

Not necessarily. It takes a while for a pandemic to catch fire. yardwork May 2021 #54

This article points to some "smoldering" Ani Yun Wiya May 2021 #63

Thank God CNN had Maggie Haberman on to discuss this story maxrandb May 2021 #37

IKR !? uponit7771 May 2021 #47

Going to a hospital there torius May 2021 #57

This is going to fuel more asian hate from the right Tree Lady May 2021 #58

Bottom line: The origin is not settled ecstatic May 2021 #60

Wouldn't the people in the hospital get sick too and turn into super spreaders ? Mr. Sparkle May 2021 #66