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Klaralven

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48. Gun deaths per capita includes suicides by firearm.

Tue May 25, 2021, 02:52 PM

May 2021

If someone wants to kill themselves with a gun, I don't have a problem. It's their choice.

More relevant is homicide mortality by state, which is a better proxy for my risk due to others having firearms. Even then, its only a rough proxy, since most murders are by related persons or are murders of people working risky jobs, e.g. night convenience store clerk.

NY State does pretty well, at 15th, but other states with very permissive gun laws do better, e.g. Vermont, with no homicides in 2019.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm

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